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Do me a solid and provide the definition of the word "socialism." I think there may be a disconnect between you and I w/r/t what the word means. I got my definition from the dictionary...not sure where yours is from.
- many pre-tea party conservatives were pro-choice
- see above
- true
- a republican devised health care plan built on people buying insurance from private companies
So, yeah...he's a center right president, especially when compared to the last two Republican presidents.
so·cial·ism [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
#3 Sure sounds a lot like The stimulus and obamacare.
noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
#3 Sure sounds a lot like The stimulus and obamacare.
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Definition #1: Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
In line with the definition above, we've seen President Obama's federal government seize partial ownership of automakers, banks and other financial institutions and insurance companies, to name a few.
According to Bill Gross at Pensions & Investments Online, government ownership and control of vital financial and manufacturing institutions will politely be described as “industrial based” policy and “burden sharing,” but we should have no doubt that we will move significantly away from the free market model that has dominated capitalistic countries for the past 25 years.
Definition #2: A system of society or group living in which there is no private property a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state.
Per the second definition, we've seen AIG employees have their legal employment contracts essentially nullified and have their legal bonuses seized via bully tactics implemented by President Obama, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) and others in Congress.
In a Daily Press article today, economist Walter Williams writes that he is "all too afraid that a historian, a hundred years from now, will footnote America as a historical curiosity where people once enjoyed private property rights and limited government but it all returned to mankind's normal state of affairs — arbitrary abuse and control by the powerful elite."
Definition #3: A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.
The third definition brings to mind not-too-distant images of a presidential nominee advocating the redistribution of Americans' wealth. As recently as this morning, an Associated Press headline tried and convicted President Obama for breaking the promise he made to not raise taxes on poor people. See PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama tax pledge up in smoke for details. Welcome to the "Land of Hope and Change."
This makes me confident you dont know much about either.
Starting with Obamacare: explain how mandating that people purchase a product from a private company = socialism. Unless your doctor is a government employee (see the NHS) you arent taking part in socialized medicine.
2 or 3 times obama voted against "born alive" legislation, something no tea party activist supports and most americans find pretty extreme if not replusive.
-3 gop votes for the stimulus orgy
-5 for the ledbetter fair pay bill
-and 10 gop votes for a state child health care program
so yeah, def a center right president look at all the support he had from his counterparts!
Yes, because the amount of support he received from a tea party controlled GOP is indicative of the reality of how his record compares to past Republican presidents.
sorry bro, all three bills signed and delivered before the tea party explosion of 2010
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