Tribulus!!

[Bretmj1]

So I hear this stuff is a definite try, what is the most reliable...bah, best brand for this stuff?

 

[Cutt29]

save your money it is not a "definite try"

 

[Bretmj1]

Whats wrong with it?

 

[Cutt29]

it doesnt do what it claims to do that is whats wrong with it

 

[uamaverick]

I agree. Tribulus doesn't build muscle mass because of increased test. Hell it's practically worthless unless you're over 30 years old. It's still cheap though, so it won't kill you to try it.

 

[Bretmj1]

I was actually after it as a pre- supplement cycle, obviously taken before my actual cycle just to prepare. Also, I read about the libido raising and mood raising effects, thought i'd give it a whirl

 

[macrophage69alpha]

tribulus can have pro-sexual and mood effects. however as noted it does not raise testosterone, this has been fairly well established clinically.

there may be a PARTIAL exception, in those experiencing some HPGA suppression from prolactin (as tribulus does have some dopaminergic activity). But this has not been established and is only theoretical.

you are of course in that case better off with proven dopaminergics like bromocriptine, selegiline, cabergoline, l-dopa, etc...

 

[Bretmj1]

Hmm, alright, so you wouldnt recommend it then? What about ZMA? I see people stacking trib and zma with a ph. What is your intake on ZMA?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

ZMA is beneficial for testosterone production but its not really going to do much unless you are deficient in zinc or magnesium (which some people are).

generally just reccomend a good zinc supp (with copper) and a magnesium + potassium supplement. CHeaper and better.

 

[Bretmj1]

Could you give me a good brand of both the ZMA and Tribulus?