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uamaverick
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I agree. Tribulus doesn't build muscle mass because of increased test. Hell it's practically worthless unless you're over 30 years old. It's still cheap though, so it won't kill you to try it.
macrophage69alpha
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tribulus can have pro-sexual and mood effects. however as noted it does not raise testosterone, this has been fairly well established clinically.
there may be a PARTIAL exception, in those experiencing some HPGA suppression from prolactin (as tribulus does have some dopaminergic activity). But this has not been established and is only theoretical.
you are of course in that case better off with proven dopaminergics like bromocriptine, selegiline, cabergoline, l-dopa, etc...
there may be a PARTIAL exception, in those experiencing some HPGA suppression from prolactin (as tribulus does have some dopaminergic activity). But this has not been established and is only theoretical.
you are of course in that case better off with proven dopaminergics like bromocriptine, selegiline, cabergoline, l-dopa, etc...
macrophage69alpha
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ZMA is beneficial for testosterone production but its not really going to do much unless you are deficient in zinc or magnesium (which some people are).
generally just reccomend a good zinc supp (with copper) and a magnesium + potassium supplement. CHeaper and better.
generally just reccomend a good zinc supp (with copper) and a magnesium + potassium supplement. CHeaper and better.
macrophage69alpha
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ZMA and tribulus are not "worthless" per se, they do fall well short of their claims.
as noted the combination minerals posted are better than ZMA and cheaper. Tribulus is fine to use, so long as you realize it wont raise your test. It can have benefits. Though there are large variances in quality with tribulus and there is limited data on which extraction actually provides any real benefits. (other than raising test/lh, which is does not do)
you if you are looking for those particular benefits, there are other dopaminergics that are better suited. And if you have erectile issues cialis and other PDE5 inhibitors are better options.
Novadex is an oral ATD and 4-oht mix. the problem with this product and others like it is the half life(very short) and oral bioavailability issues(low and very inconsistent), which tend to cause more problems than it might solve. High uptake at times, nil the next. this can massive spikes in plasma when there is uptake followed by massive drops. followed by nothing and further disruption of the endrocrine system.
as noted the combination minerals posted are better than ZMA and cheaper. Tribulus is fine to use, so long as you realize it wont raise your test. It can have benefits. Though there are large variances in quality with tribulus and there is limited data on which extraction actually provides any real benefits. (other than raising test/lh, which is does not do)
you if you are looking for those particular benefits, there are other dopaminergics that are better suited. And if you have erectile issues cialis and other PDE5 inhibitors are better options.
Novadex is an oral ATD and 4-oht mix. the problem with this product and others like it is the half life(very short) and oral bioavailability issues(low and very inconsistent), which tend to cause more problems than it might solve. High uptake at times, nil the next. this can massive spikes in plasma when there is uptake followed by massive drops. followed by nothing and further disruption of the endrocrine system.
Bretmj1
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Alright, so basically my whole supplemental cycle has been cut off by you guys 
haha, can you perhaps recommend me a cycle that will with a good diet and hard lifting will contribute in some hardcore results in lean muscle mass and strength, has good, truthful testimonials aswell - minimal side effects. I'll be cutting about a month after I take the supplement, until then i'll be eating up a storm and lifting very heavily. And could you explain what the cycle can do for me? Thanks a ton guys.
haha, can you perhaps recommend me a cycle that will with a good diet and hard lifting will contribute in some hardcore results in lean muscle mass and strength, has good, truthful testimonials aswell - minimal side effects. I'll be cutting about a month after I take the supplement, until then i'll be eating up a storm and lifting very heavily. And could you explain what the cycle can do for me? Thanks a ton guys.
