tren with deiselbolan??

[ozcroboy]

can u use deiselbolan as a 6 week kickstart to a 10 week tren e cycle or anavar be a better option? say 250mg tren e every 4rth day. 2 caps ed of deiselbolan for first 6 weeks? wud this be too toxic on the liver? obv with all the on cycle support and pct required. ive used beast as a kickstart to a sus 250 system at 500mg a week but with diesel being a lil less toxic can u combine with tren?

 

[RickRock13]

Are you going for a bulk? What is your goal for the cycle? That will help you decide what to kick it off with.

Also give us your stats please

 

[ozcroboy]

lean bulk. 35yrs 6.2" 205lb 13%

 

[RickRock13]

For a "lean" bulk, Anavar might be better. Diesel is awesome for adding mass but it can be kinda wet for some. I ran it and did gain nice mass and strength, but did bloat a bit on it

 

[stevesmi]

what the heck does 'lean bulk' mean?

never understood that at all. its like saying I am ordering a large small pizza.

anyway you can manage on that stack but make sure you run n2guard.

var and tren are good together if you want strength gains, I nailed PR's on that stack.. i was as strong as an ox.

 

[ozcroboy]

Lean bulk without excess water or fat gains. Not hard to understand i thought?? Yes yes n2guard, hcgen, forma, caber....got all that down pat

 

[ozcroboy]

Did u run anavar the length of the cycle or just kik start? What dose?

 

[dylangemelli]

Did u run anavar the length of the cycle or just kik start? What dose?

You should not exceed 8 weeks of anavar but I feel that is too long... 6 weeks is optimal... anavar is better to run on the back end to polish off the cycle... run it with proviron the last six weeks of the cycle bro

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[stevesmi]

Lean bulk without excess water or fat gains. Not hard to understand i thought?? Yes yes n2guard, hcgen, forma, caber....got all that down pat

no bodybuilder ever wants water or fat gains. ... lean means losing weight, bulk means gaining weight. so its like an oxymoron to me.

as far as var you could throw it in the last 6 weeks, by then the tren will be peaking and you will get a nice bump in your strength.

glad you have everything down pat, shows you have done your homework.. glad to see SOMEONE on here has been taking advantage of the info !!

 

[RickRock13]

I think running the Anavar the last 6 weeks sounds like a great plan as well.

 

[dylangemelli]

i would do anavar the last six weeks... 60 mg the first four weeks and then bump to 80 mg the last two weeks... also run proviron alongside at 75mg a day...