tren virgin---few questions

[liquid1234]

hey guys I'm a tren virgin and perhaps might want to add it to my next cycle-----ive been doing lots of reading on it...still have a few questions----first off is it as nephro toxic as people say? i've been reading mixed reviews on this----also if i wanted to use the enanthate version, would i hold more water retention i would think not since it doesnt aromatize? but just wanted to told the facts. I know for example with test enanthate useres tend to hold more water compared to the fast acting prop ester----
Also is cabergoline the only ancillary i would need with regards to the tren? (plus of course arimidex for the test i will b using with it)



cycle would look something like this---10 wk cycle-->no probs running the tren that long right guys?
Test enan 400mg/wk
Tren enan 200mg/wk (remember guys im a virgin with tren hence the low dose)
Mast enanthate 400mg/wk
.5mg arimidex/EOD
1mg cabergoline/wk (.5mg 2x/wk)---

hows that lookin?

Liquid

 

[tripleOG]

The only thing about using enanthate is that if you can't handle the sides of tren it won't leave your system as quickly. Cabergoline or bromo is what you need as far as prolactin gyno is concerned. And personally I think that you could easily do 300mg a week of tren and be fine if you can handle the sides. To be honest the sides of tren suck but just deal with it cuz it's worth the gains. Start with that 200 a week and bump it up if you can handle it, and I would only run the tren for 8 weeks especially since it's your first run at it.

 

[tripleOG]

BTW, my last cycle was tren e and test e with winny the last 5 weeks. Ran the test e weeks 1-10, ran the tren e at 600mg a week for weeks 2-10.

 

[liquid1234]

when you say the bad sides you are referring to the insomnia, and night sweats/and difficulty breathing?

liquid

 

[HAYEZ]

i would make it simple...
1-10
prop 100mg eod
mast 100mg eod
1-8
tren 50 mg eod
adex .25 eod if needed...with the mast though 99% sure ya wont need it at all..good to have on hand though

that cycle you can up the tren or lower it...if ya dont like the sides quit useing it and its done and over...

cabergoline is all you need for tren...and most dont need it

my first tren run i used it for 75mg eod...but didnt need it...now i run it 100mg ed and no need for caber still..

 

[Therealdeal06555]

Hayes is right about the masteron doing a kick ass job blocking the estro from both tren/test....Im currently running 300mgs tren 300mgs test and 300mgs master and I am sooo prone to gyno and it only bothers me once a week with alittle tingle..pop half a letro and it goes away...im so suprised/ happy how the masteron is combating gyno effects...deff will never do a cycle without it thats for sure...
I have bromo but was not needed so far at all.

 

[tripleOG]

when you say the bad sides you are referring to the insomnia, and night sweats/and difficulty breathing?

liquid

Yes, all of the above. I literallly wake up in a f-ing puddle of sweat sometimes, and the insomnia can get annoying but watch a movie or something. I never had tren cough or anything like that. I've also used Proviron on both my tren cycles, it's similiar to Masteron just weaker, and that works good for the sexual sides. Hayez cycle looks great if you don't mind everyday pins and if you have access to all his stuff. If you don't have access to his cycle than just deal with the sides. Most people don't get tren gyno anyway. You can take 1mg of b6 3 times a day, along with some Pygeum and that should do just fine in keeping prolactin down without having to use caber, but have some just in case. Tren kinda makes you crazy, but in a good way.