tren to kickstart or end?

[fcfmuaythai]

I see different people suggest to use tren at different times throughout a cycle. If used with test e or cyp, would you use it to start or to end, and why?

 

[BOWTECH]

How many weeks are you planning to use tren?

 

[fcfmuaythai]

6, i think. i'm still gathering info. on it and haven't made a concrete decision though.

 

[BOWTECH]

I have used tren with test with excellent results! I started the tren on week 3. I was also using 500 mgs of cyp. per week. The reason behind this is that I gave the test time to kick in. Get ready for some crazy size and strength gains. Good luck Bro!

 

[fcfmuaythai]

I'm thinking of:

weeks 1-10 500mg test e or cyp
weeks 1-4 50mg tbol ED
weeks 5-10 300mg tren e
nolva, HCG pct
.5mg liquidex EOD

how does that look?

 

[BOWTECH]

Remember to inject for instance (mon and thur) to help keep blood levels stable. Some may tell you to up the dose of the tren but that is up to you. Remember you can always go higher if you need to. See how the 300 works before you go up also you need some clomid for pct also. Check out the pct forum

 

[fcfmuaythai]

will the tren put the crazy size on, or is that primarily from the test? and will the tren decrease the water retention from the test to attain that 'hard' look?

 

[growthspurt]

Yeah, I like this quest. I'm seriously thinking about using Tren for the first time. So what part of the cycle is the best time to start, if there is such a time?????

 

[BOWTECH]

Both will give you the added strength gains. You will hold some water from the test. In my experience I drink 1 1/2 to 2 gallons of water daily on cycle. The more water you can drink and constantly flush your system the less water you will retain.

last cycle:
825 mgs Andropen (test)-week
500 mgs deca-week
60 mgs tbol-daily
could see the six pack throughout the whole cycle

 

[fcfmuaythai]

how many weeks did you run the tbol?

 

[Makavelli]

Kickstart with orals. If you're using tren e, I would recommend 8 weeks. The reason for a kickstart with orals is that you can quickly raise your blood levels of AAS. By using tren in the end you will have your highest levels of AAS from the test and tren at the most crucial part of the cycle. Make sense?

 

[fcfmuaythai]

thanks makavelli!

 

[nydj66]

If you're planning to use tren-acetate then definitely use the tren at the beginning of the cycle. Here's why:

1.) Because of the short length of the acetate ester trenbolone levels will stabilize in your blood in about a week which gives you a good kick start over the test-e. (Remember that you need to inject tren-acetate daily).

2.) Trenbolone raises prolactin levels which can inhibit recovery. Stopping the tren 5 weeks before the cycle is over will help avoid this problem.

3.) 3 weeks of HCG is the best way to finish a cycle; it will keep your testosterone level high while the test-e is working out of your system and it will restore your testes to full function in preparation for S.E.R.M therapy (PCT).

 

[bigtravis]

i do my tren all the way through my first annual cycle. cyp, tren, a-50, d-bol.
1-12 cyp. 1500/week
1-12 tren. 525/week
1-3 a-50 100/ed
8-12 d-bol 100/ed
imo it's like ketchup. you can put it on anything.

 

[BOWTECH]

Ran the tbol for the first 4 weeks