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Tren,test,winstrol, and clen stack questions
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needtogetaas
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Wow first post and ready to do the mother of all cycles. Go big or go home you're thinking right? If you are about to do this kind of cycle you should already know the answer to your own question at this point bro. You're planing a big cycle there friend. I bet my ass you dont have hardly half of what you need on hand for ai's and pct to complete this cycle ether. MEH the hell with it. I will lay it all out for you. I will also say if your not going to do it right then don't bother doing it at all too.
weeks
1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week m/t
1-8 ten ace 100mg every other ( I assume you got tren ace but who knows)
4-10 winny 50mg ed
6-10 hcgenerate 5 caps every day spread out (HCGenerate)
pct
10-16 clomid 25mg ed (can can also switch this out for Sustain Alpha <--- click the link) 5 pumps ed
10-14 unleashed/post cycle combo (UNLEASHED+POST CYCLE COMBO)
Now when it comes to the clen you can only get a good 4 weeks of usefulness out of it before its no longer effective plus you really do not want to stay on it any longer. You can stretch it to 6 weeks using bynadril but will just skip that for now. At the start of your cycle us not the best because you might lose strength and size before the other shit kicks in. More at the end of your cycle you really want to be focusing in on maintaining gains so for you smack dab in the middle of the cycle would be best. weeks 4 through 8 IMO
start out with 20mcg morning noon and late afternoon taking it at night sucks balls but Need2sleep would help if thats what you wanted to do. Increase your doses by 20mcg every 2 to 3 day. so it would look something like this
M/N/LN
20/20/20
20/20/20
40/20/20
40/20/20
40/40/20
40/40/20
40/40/40
Once you have maxed out at 40/40/40 there is never a need to go higher and doing so is retarded and useless anyway. some people like to be a bad ass and go as high as 60/60/60 but trust me not worth it. Once you max out stay at this does till the 4 weeks is up. No you do not want to do it again well in pct thats just plan numb as well.
When using both tren and clen your taxing the living crap out of your body. Andrinal frailer,kidneys working on overdrive,and a slew of other problems. Take a good muti vitamin, at least close to a gram a day of Taurine,some Alpha Lipoic Acid is a good idea, a good amount of Amino acids, and some other health sups. On guard would be perfect for this but not out yet. Muscle Replenisher (Muscle Replenisher) can give you most of what you need or get it all from other source dont really care just do it right.
Now onto the Ai's estrogen/progesterone/gyno control part of the cycle. You can just take same formastain 2 pumps morning 2 pumps night threw out the cycle
Competitive Edge Labs Formestane Competitive Edge Labs Formestane [] - $34.95 : Orbit Nutrition and this should do a pretty good job of wording off any problems. I mean really you would only need this for the first half of the cycle well you are using tren and not using the winny. Once on the winny the winny should get the job done for the most part. But I would take tha formatane for the first half of the cycle.
Always always always always always always god damn always have letro and bromo on hand before you even think about doing a test/tren cycle. If you don't know how to use them ya betta ask somebody. But please dont be dumb and not have them. With the formatane and winny you should be all set but these products (letro/bromo) are your last line of powerful defense against out of control estrogen/porgesterone side effects and trust me one day you will wake up with out them say fuck!!!!!!!! I wish I had them. Don't come crying when ya do because I told you first.
You dont want to use them from the start because they lower igf-1 raise shbg,and cause a bunch of other problems as well as lower your gains. But they are the last saving grace when it comes to massive bitch tits or a dick thats not working.
Send me a pm if you need anymore help my friend. Love to help
weeks
1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week m/t
1-8 ten ace 100mg every other ( I assume you got tren ace but who knows)
4-10 winny 50mg ed
6-10 hcgenerate 5 caps every day spread out (HCGenerate)
pct
10-16 clomid 25mg ed (can can also switch this out for Sustain Alpha <--- click the link) 5 pumps ed
10-14 unleashed/post cycle combo (UNLEASHED+POST CYCLE COMBO)
Now when it comes to the clen you can only get a good 4 weeks of usefulness out of it before its no longer effective plus you really do not want to stay on it any longer. You can stretch it to 6 weeks using bynadril but will just skip that for now. At the start of your cycle us not the best because you might lose strength and size before the other shit kicks in. More at the end of your cycle you really want to be focusing in on maintaining gains so for you smack dab in the middle of the cycle would be best. weeks 4 through 8 IMO
start out with 20mcg morning noon and late afternoon taking it at night sucks balls but Need2sleep would help if thats what you wanted to do. Increase your doses by 20mcg every 2 to 3 day. so it would look something like this
M/N/LN
20/20/20
20/20/20
40/20/20
40/20/20
40/40/20
40/40/20
40/40/40
Once you have maxed out at 40/40/40 there is never a need to go higher and doing so is retarded and useless anyway. some people like to be a bad ass and go as high as 60/60/60 but trust me not worth it. Once you max out stay at this does till the 4 weeks is up. No you do not want to do it again well in pct thats just plan numb as well.
When using both tren and clen your taxing the living crap out of your body. Andrinal frailer,kidneys working on overdrive,and a slew of other problems. Take a good muti vitamin, at least close to a gram a day of Taurine,some Alpha Lipoic Acid is a good idea, a good amount of Amino acids, and some other health sups. On guard would be perfect for this but not out yet. Muscle Replenisher (Muscle Replenisher) can give you most of what you need or get it all from other source dont really care just do it right.
Now onto the Ai's estrogen/progesterone/gyno control part of the cycle. You can just take same formastain 2 pumps morning 2 pumps night threw out the cycle
Competitive Edge Labs Formestane Competitive Edge Labs Formestane [] - $34.95 : Orbit Nutrition and this should do a pretty good job of wording off any problems. I mean really you would only need this for the first half of the cycle well you are using tren and not using the winny. Once on the winny the winny should get the job done for the most part. But I would take tha formatane for the first half of the cycle.
Always always always always always always god damn always have letro and bromo on hand before you even think about doing a test/tren cycle. If you don't know how to use them ya betta ask somebody. But please dont be dumb and not have them. With the formatane and winny you should be all set but these products (letro/bromo) are your last line of powerful defense against out of control estrogen/porgesterone side effects and trust me one day you will wake up with out them say fuck!!!!!!!! I wish I had them. Don't come crying when ya do because I told you first.
You dont want to use them from the start because they lower igf-1 raise shbg,and cause a bunch of other problems as well as lower your gains. But they are the last saving grace when it comes to massive bitch tits or a dick thats not working.
Send me a pm if you need anymore help my friend. Love to help
