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Tren Ques??

gunz99

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im gonna be going on a cutting cycle and i was wondering if there is a difference if i went with tren acetate or tren depot?? will i still see the same results?
 
Trenbolone acetate needs to be injected every day for best results, usually 75 mgs. a day, because it is a short acting esther that only stays in the bloodstream for about 24-36 hrs. If the product you have is called 'tren depot', I believe it is British Dragon Lab's version of Parobolan which is Trebolone hydro-something-I-can't-remember. This is a longer acting esther and needs to be injected only a few times a week. A good dose for a first time user (or just about any user) of Tren depot is 225-300 mgs. a week (it comes in 75 mgs. per ml.) They're both incredibly potent and give the same effects. Mix it with some form of testosterone for best results. Good luck!
 
ryan04 said:
Trenbolone acetate needs to be injected every day for best results, usually 75 mgs. a day, because it is a short acting esther that only stays in the bloodstream for about 24-36 hrs. If the product you have is called 'tren depot', I believe it is British Dragon Lab's version of Parobolan which is Trebolone hydro-something-I-can't-remember. This is a longer acting esther and needs to be injected only a few times a week. A good dose for a first time user (or just about any user) of Tren depot is 225-300 mgs. a week (it comes in 75 mgs. per ml.) They're both incredibly potent and give the same effects. Mix it with some form of testosterone for best results. Good luck!
true and not true...the longer acting ester requires more mg per week then the fast acting ester. they do not compare mg for mg. other then that no difference. 75mg a day is 525 a week so if you use the long acting ester go with at least 700mg a week.
 
halfaclue said:
true and not true...the longer acting ester requires more mg per week then the fast acting ester. they do not compare mg for mg. other then that no difference. 75mg a day is 525 a week so if you use the long acting ester go with at least 700mg a week.
how do you come up with that theory?
 
I don't know but he got it backwards. Shorter esters will clear faster and won't yield as high of a blood level as longer esters. I know, I ran 100mg/day of tren acetate and was fine. Mad pumps, great strength, but tolerable. That is 700mg/week. I tried tren enanthate at 600mg/week, and by week 4, I could barely lift I got so pumped. I couldn't train back, legs, barely even arms, I had to cut it out completely. 400/week or less is about the most I can handle. Now, he is right in that acetate is a shorter ester, so the actual amount of raw tren is higher per mg of tren ace than it is in tren enth... but in real life, the build-up effect of the longer ester more than compensates. That's why most guys see more water retention with test enth or cyp than test prop, the build-up allows higher blood levels of test, which leads to more conversion to estrogen. Back to the point, if you're using tren ace or tren enth, both will yield about the same results. Tren ace should be shot ED or EOD, tren enth 2x per week.
 
I bumped that thread..its called the many faces of tren....I think i did get it backwards..here is the paragraph I was refering to....

The amount of trenbolone in 76 mg of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate is equivalent to the amount of trenbolone in only 58 mg of Trenbolone Acetate. The acetate is a little more potent, more effective per milligram, because the acetate ester is lighter than the cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester; therefore a higher percentage of the weight of Trenbolone Acetate is trenbolone. A similar comparison also can be made with the other long lasting esters of trenbolone: enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate
 
yomama said:
how do you come up with that theory?

I think he's getting at the fact that the ester weights have a sigificant effect on the amount of tren contained in a given mg. A shorter ester weighs less and will contain more of the base compound (i.e. test suspension without an ester contains the most test per 100mg - test decanoate with a very long ester contains quite a bit less actual test per 100mg).

A longer ester though tends to overlap on itself so there are certainly scenarios where peak levels may be higher due to injection frequency and dosage leaving substantial residuals. A 200mg injection with a 5 day halflife still has 100mg at the 5 day mark and 50mg at the 10 day mark.

Edit: I guess he beat me to his own explanation - now let's see if he can link a good thread explaining this faster than I (although he did just bump it making it an easy find) http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=364167.
 
halfaclue said:
I bumped that thread..its called the many faces of tren....I think i did get it backwards..here is the paragraph I was refering to....

The amount of trenbolone in 76 mg of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate is equivalent to the amount of trenbolone in only 58 mg of Trenbolone Acetate. The acetate is a little more potent, more effective per milligram, because the acetate ester is lighter than the cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester; therefore a higher percentage of the weight of Trenbolone Acetate is trenbolone. A similar comparison also can be made with the other long lasting esters of trenbolone: enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate

I think i did get right...hmmmm

according to this 58mg of fast acting tren ace is equivalent to 76mg of tren E so if you 58mg a day for the tren ace that would be 404mg for the week vs 532mg of tren E for the week.
 
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