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GeneticFreak18 said:
you'll have zero sex drive if you dont stack with test bro and i mean zero

Yes, a tren only cycle will give good results but tren does not stimulate the receptors that affect sexual drive and function. So, after you start the cycle you have about 3 weeks before your body stops producing natty test after which time you can kiss your sex life goodbye until after your cycle is over and you restore hpta function with proper PCT.
 
TEST GOOD!!

ok I'll throw in some test. i'm presently using test e 500/EQ 400 per week. For my next cycle with the tren 500/week still ok? or should I up the test?

Also, anyone have any bad tren stories i should be aware of before i take the leap?
 
I've never had a libido problem from ANY drug... including running tren and deca together without test. I think deca dick is somewhat common, but fina-dick much less so. Your body stops producing TEST, but tren is still a strong androgen. My sex drive stays normal or higher while on any steroid except deca. Deca I might have been a little lower, but I still had sex or wanted to every single day. Granted I'm a natural hornball, but I don't see why people think test is a MUST with tren before they try it?
 
GEAR250 said:
TEST GOOD!!

ok I'll throw in some test. i'm presently using test e 500/EQ 400 per week. For my next cycle with the tren 500/week still ok? or should I up the test?

Also, anyone have any bad tren stories i should be aware of before i take the leap?

Most vets advise that your test dose be slightly higher than your tren dose. For your first experience with tren you should keep the dosage low (like 75mg EOD) so 500mg/week of test should be fine.

I have a bad tren story; after five cycles (two of them with test and deca) I tried 100mg of test enanthate with 150mg of tren acetate EOD. After three weeks I began to develop gyno and had giant purple zits all over my shoulders.

I immediately stopped the cycle, started nolvadex and the gyno went away. Now, 5 months later my shoulders still have not cleared up. These zits are unreal; deep under the skin. They cause permanent scars. I was used to gear aggrevating my normal acne (small red pimples on my face and back) but I had a bad reaction to tren. Will never run it again.
 
nydj66 said:
Most vets advise that your test dose be slightly higher than your tren dose. For your first experience with tren you should keep the dosage low (like 75mg EOD) so 500mg/week of test should be fine.

I have a bad tren story; after five cycles (two of them with test and deca) I tried 100mg of test enanthate with 150mg of tren acetate EOD. After three weeks I began to develop gyno and had giant purple zits all over my shoulders.

I immediately stopped the cycle, started nolvadex and the gyno went away. Now, 5 months later my shoulders still have not cleared up. These zits are unreal; deep under the skin. They cause permanent scars. I was used to gear aggrevating my normal acne (small red pimples on my face and back) but I had a bad reaction to tren. Will never run it again.

Holy shit!! That got me thinking.
 
GEAR250 said:
TEST GOOD!!

ok I'll throw in some test. i'm presently using test e 500/EQ 400 per week. For my next cycle with the tren 500/week still ok? or should I up the test?

Also, anyone have any bad tren stories i should be aware of before i take the leap?

I'm just finishing up a 6 week Tren only cycle.

Sides:

* Sleeplessness. I either have trouble falling asleep, or find myself waking up at 5am, unable to go back to sleep (I normally get up aroud 7:30.) I started injecting very first thing in the morning, and the problem was minimized.

* Night sweats. Wake up with the bed soaking wet from sweat.

* Low aerobic abilty. I used to run 2 - 4 miles a day before this cycle. Now I run a couple hundred yards and I'm gasping for air, or cramped up (see below)

* Cramps. Especially calves and lower back. Makes Cardio pretty much impossible (see above.) Also has made for some pretty embarrising moments while in bed with my women. Let's just say that doggy style is out for the time being.

* Appetite. This may only be me, but Tren made me crazy hungry, which really sucked because this was supposed to be a cutter.

* Low sex drive. I'm not talking about "tren dick". I can get it up just fine... it's just that I'm not that interested anymore. I hve been with my women a couple of times, but haven't looked at porn or rubbed one out since the cycle started.

* Burning sensation. I'm setting myself up for target practice with this one but, is it supposed to burn when I pee? Seriously, I've never had a STD and neither has my wife. We're both faithfull. But when I started my first tren cycle, it hurt to pee. Not blood curdling scream hurt, but definitely not normal. When that cycle ended the problem went away. Started second cycle and problem started up again. Now I'm finished and - guess what? Problem's gone. I've never read about anyone else having this. It may have something to do with tren being hard on the kidneys?

* Great big muscles <grin> As far as quality lean mass goes, tren rocks. The sides were all worth it. Can't wait to start my next tren cycle in a couple of months.
 
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