Tren only cycle?

[humperdink]

Need some help with my next cycle? I’m 45 190lbs 5, 11 and about 20% BF... About a couple of months ago I finished my first cycle, 250mg of test (each week) for 12 weeks. I grew some but the water I added on was unreal.

I want to try a 12-week cycle of Tren only. For my weight size and age; how much should I do? I want to build up and cut at the same time. I also want to avoid any side affects, like night sweats and other things that might happen. I will also be doing Novadex.

Could you tell me why people only get Night Sweats and don’t get the Sweats in the day?

Can you give me a dosage for Ed or Eod? Thanks for your help.

 

[ricorico]

tren doesn really aromatize like test does.....so you wont need Nolva, although id say add test cyp at 400mgs a week for 10, tren ace 100mgs eod weeks 1-8 or 3-10....takeing adex through will eliminate that bloat prob......try to get your bf down to at least 15 or 16 before starting.......

 

[krishna]

Don't hop right into a tren cycle. Make sure you've done PCT and had plenty of time to recover from your last cycle. You should drop a lot of that water in the meantime. Nolva will help with PCT recovery after a tren cycle, as it will boost your own test production through negative feedback channels. It's not really needed during your cycle as rico mentioned because it doesn't aromatize.

 

[ricorico]

Don't hop right into a tren cycle. Make sure you've done PCT and had plenty of time to recover from your last cycle. You should drop a lot of that water in the meantime. Nolva will help with PCT recovery after a tren cycle, as it will boost your own test production through negative feedback channels. It's not really needed during your cycle as rico mentioned because it doesn't aromatize.

good point dude....i shouldve mentioned Nolvas key role in all PCT plans...oops, bottom line, always have Nolva for PCT and or CLomid

 

[Stainless_Steel]

Yeah I would add the test like ricorico said because tren tends to make some peoples sex drive drop.

 

[cboogsrun]

You got water retention from 250mg of test a week? Were you drinking an ass load of pop? Thats the only time water retention gets out of hand for me. Also water retention can also aid in heavy lifting. Not all the water stuff is bad, just looks bad for a short time. Ive used ag guys femera to deal with excessive water bloat. I took 1/4 a ml every third day. My first cycle was identical to yours and it wasn't all that great. My next cycle I put on 27 lbs by going to 500 mg of test a week for 6 weeks. Increasing the dosage seemed to work well for me. I had previously taken prohormones, so it made sense to increase the dosage. Good Luck

DJ

Need some help with my next cycle? I’m 45 190lbs 5, 11 and about 20% BF... About a couple of months ago I finished my first cycle, 250mg of test (each week) for 12 weeks. I grew some but the water I added on was unreal.

I want to try a 12-week cycle of Tren only. For my weight size and age; how much should I do? I want to build up and cut at the same time. I also want to avoid any side affects, like night sweats and other things that might happen. I will also be doing Novadex.

Could you tell me why people only get Night Sweats and don’t get the Sweats in the day?

Can you give me a dosage for Ed or Eod? Thanks for your help.

 

[bigmann245]

i did a tren only cycle at 150mg eod and i lost a butt load of fat and gained a surprising amount of mass. im sorry i am on the great side of tren but for me it was the best thing i ever did. basically if it would not have worked i would have lost all hope in AAS and never tried anything, but lucky for me it was the best thing i ever did. it actualy saved my naval career since they are big on bodyfat % and will kick you out if your too fat. i was 26% at one time and dropped to 19% in a matter of weeks. saved my ass i tell you. i believe from experience there is nothing wrong with a tren only cycle. it did exactly what humperdink wants, lost fat gained muscle at the same time. of course you wont gain as much muscle as you would on test with it but as far as losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time, i highly recommend it.

 

[Whiskey]

THis is me, but I like to do a tren/test cycle. 75mg-ed/500mg-week test. I have done a couple of tren only cycles @ 75mg ed and had very good results, but when I add the 500mg/week of test, I am more mentally into it for some reason... oh, and i'm horny like no other ;-)

Whiskey

 

[vandelman]

The second cycle I ever did was a Tren only cycle....75mg ED.....I dropped body fat like it was going out of style.......

Hey..let me take a shot at your Question of "why people only get Night Sweats and not sweats during the day"

I often wondered this myself as I started to incorperate Fina into my cycles....which started giving me them pain in the ass night sweats....so after areading a shit load of studies on fina....and asking a few docs about the thyroid and how it functions I think I have an idea as to why we get night sweats........

so first..ask yourself...what are some common causes of "Night Sweats" A.K.A. "Sleep Hyperhidrosis or Nocturnal Hyperhydrosis". There are many reasons as to why someone will have night sweats, but the majority of these reasons deal with fluctuating hormone levels in the body. One of them in particular which drew my attention was "Hyperthyroidism" which is an abnormal condition of the thyroid gland resulting in excessive secretion of thyroid hormones characterized by an "increased metabolism and weight loss"....(hhhmmmmm.....some key characteristics of Trenny Tren Tren...).

Looking into a few studies on Tren I came across one that said "Trenbolone Acetate results in a 45% decrease in Thyroxine (T4) levels......when Thyroxine (T4) levels decrease even slightly the pituitary gland goes into action and pumps up the secretion of Thyrotropin-Releasing Hormone "TRH"...so when T4 levels fall from the Fina you are taking your body tries to raise its level of Thyroxine (T4) by increasing production of Thyrotropin-Releasing Hormone (TRH)....this huge increase in TRH levels that will stimulate the production of T4 is what occurs in "Hyperthyroidism"....i'm sure most of you already know this but the Thyroid has a huge surge of all of these hormones while you sleep......so naturaly your thyroid produces the majoritiy of its hormones while you sleep......now add Fina into the equation which drops the bodies levels of T4 by 45% and you can easily see how this whole process is magnified to to bring about a temporary state of "Hyperthyroidism" which is one of the leading causes of Night Sweats!! I hope that makes sense bros........

 

[humperdink]

Thanks you guys for all of your solid info and suggestions. My big problem is my age, if I was 20 years younger. I would be stacking and trying everything. Now my body naturally retains more water than normal. The 250mg of Test I was doing also raised my blood pressure.

I want to stay safe and build muscle. I was thinking of stacking Tren and Eq (Boldenone). What do you guys think?

Any other suggestions you can send my way would be apprechated.

Thanks

 

[tical]

primo? anavar? eq?

you should have some test as a base for anything though

 

[go2failure]

Listen to the bros who say to wait or take it with test. There is a reason.

If you run it, be well versed on its side effects, for there are many. While tren may not rear its ugly head to you, it would behoove you to REALLY know its bad sides for that rainy day and to be prepared.

 

[Mavafanculo]

The second cycle I ever did was a Tren only cycle....75mg ED.....I dropped body fat like it was going out of style.......

Hey..let me take a shot at your Question of "why people only get Night Sweats and not sweats during the day"

I often wondered this myself as I started to incorperate Fina into my cycles....which started giving me them pain in the ass night sweats....so after areading a shit load of studies on fina....and asking a few docs about the thyroid and how it functions I think I have an idea as to why we get night sweats........

so first..ask yourself...what are some common causes of "Night Sweats" A.K.A. "Sleep Hyperhidrosis or Nocturnal Hyperhydrosis". There are many reasons as to why someone will have night sweats, but the majority of these reasons deal with fluctuating hormone levels in the body. One of them in particular which drew my attention was "Hyperthyroidism" which is an abnormal condition of the thyroid gland resulting in excessive secretion of thyroid hormones characterized by an "increased metabolism and weight loss"....(hhhmmmmm.....some key characteristics of Trenny Tren Tren...).

Looking into a few studies on Tren I came across one that said "Trenbolone Acetate results in a 45% decrease in Thyroxine (T4) levels......when Thyroxine (T4) levels decrease even slightly the pituitary gland goes into action and pumps up the secretion of Thyrotropin-Releasing Hormone "TRH"...so when T4 levels fall from the Fina you are taking your body tries to raise its level of Thyroxine (T4) by increasing production of Thyrotropin-Releasing Hormone (TRH)....this huge increase in TRH levels that will stimulate the production of T4 is what occurs in "Hyperthyroidism"....i'm sure most of you already know this but the Thyroid has a huge surge of all of these hormones while you sleep......so naturaly your thyroid produces the majoritiy of its hormones while you sleep......now add Fina into the equation which drops the bodies levels of T4 by 45% and you can easily see how this whole process is magnified to to bring about a temporary state of "Hyperthyroidism" which is one of the leading causes of Night Sweats!! I hope that makes sense bros........

Interesting stuff. can you post up the whole study (and reference)?

Assumming that "Trenbolone Acetate results in a 45% decrease in Thyroxine (T4) levels." is the only part that is quoted from the study, a low T-4 would imply Hypothyroidism.

Unless the (unlikely) method of action is the destruction of circulating T-4 by tren or the esters (which would mean a few hours of high circulating T-4 coinciding with the sweats, before its destroyed), I don't think this would explain the nite sweats.

I always assumed it was related to the severe immune suppression associated with tren but never followed up as I havent done tren (yet...)
(many immune-comprised disorders have nite sweats as a symptom)