what do you mean by mediocre? cause if "tren only" is my one alternative now, i am just curious as to how much of a result i can expect. i have stacked tren, w/ prop and cyp before and know that obviously it'll be better to go that route. it's just that some of the others are recieving some importing problems for me at the current. that said, i was just wondering if the "tren only" would even be worth it.