Tren only cycle?

[stevesmi]

Just out of curiosity, @stevesmi or anyone who's tried a tren only cycle: how was it? what did you feel? Not that I'm interested at all, I'm fine with Deca...

you get less sides with tren only vs. tren + test. not sure who came up with the theory that adding test reduces sides. testosterone does indeed come with side effects and it will suppress you as hard as any AAS.

if you add test you are adding more juice to it, BUT too much juice can be counter productive. keep this in mind

also it is the prolactin increase that causes loss of libido on tren. adding test to it DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT block prolactin. it merely coats the problem temporarily.
so as long as you run caber/prami and control the prolactin you will NOT have any libido issues on tren only. if you do then your stuff is bunk or you need to up the dose

 

[MikeScott]

Thanks Steve. Now woild running beastdrol into this be crazy. Shoold I just stick with tren? Was thinking on 2 caps for four weeks of beast then when that's over start the tren run and shred up

 

[bigbassturd]

I think that's a bad idea. One harsh compound after another, putting you subject to the worst sides possible from AAS for an extended period...

To me, tren and beast are.interchangeable. The recomp effect.isn't quite there with beast, but the size and strength come on strong and fast.

If you are super gyno prone, beast is a bad idea as it aromatizes.

Just remember with tren, you will be a god for two months, then lose 30 pounds on benchpress in two weeks after you stop, and potentially gain back a lot of fat, so just be careful not to let it bite you in the ass

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yup i tried that briefly and its a no go. beastdrol and tren together even needto is one of the craziest guys on here says not to even attempt it.

a good oral with tren would be var or epi.

also winny is a bad match too, my lipids really got bad on tren with winny and my hair took a beating like i have never experienced in my life.. you want to get laid in your 30's and 40's a lot? conserve your hair, chicks dig guys with hair so take care of it

 

[MikeScott]

Ok so your staying after tren I'm going to get weak as hell and fat? What? So what the fuck is the point in doing it. I understand I won't keep all the strength but you more or less made it seem like ill be worse off after it then when I started

 

[builtbydesign]

you get less sides with tren only vs. tren + test. not sure who came up with the theory that adding test reduces sides. testosterone does indeed come with side effects and it will suppress you as hard as any AAS.

if you add test you are adding more juice to it, BUT too much juice can be counter productive. keep this in mind

also it is the prolactin increase that causes loss of libido on tren. adding test to it DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT block prolactin. it merely coats the problem temporarily.
so as long as you run caber/prami and control the prolactin you will NOT have any libido issues on tren only. if you do then your stuff is bunk or you need to up the dose

There are a few new studies out in reference to trenbolone administration for trt, being both more anabolic and androgenic than testosterone, one would think it could do all that testosterone can but better. Its true.

Everyone gets bad sides on tren due to estrogen side effects. Tren does not aromatize, but the high amount of testosterone youre taking to "counter act fina dick", is actually putting you deeper into a hole.

The idea behind running lower test or TRT dose and a high dose tren ace (for example, as ive had AMAZING success with this combo) at 600mg/wk, the side effects are next to none if the testosterone is lowered to trt dose. This is due to the fact that trenbolone and test fight for same androgen receptors, tren having a much higher affinity binding rate than testosterone (around 5 times higher for tren), doesnt allow for the testosterone to bind to those receptors. Essentially the more testosterone you use, the more is not binding and just floating around due to tren taking all the receptor sites. So what happens after there is more testosterone in blood is that it aromatizes and converts to estrogen, prolactins best friend. Basically if the presence of estrogen or e2 is controlled with an AI and a lower dose of testosterone (and verification by blood test) will not allow for an increase in progesterone induced prolactin side effect, much like e2 sides but worse. Its a slippery slope and a domino effect. If testosterone is run too high and e2 isnt under control, if a 19-nor is in the mix, prolactin will reign king and down comes your cycle, albiet a few weeks early i would assume.

Id suggest titrating the dosage of prami up from .125mg ED to .25mg ED. I dont think .5mg is needed if e2 is under control as discussed above. Prami is a bitch to come off of in itself, keep to the low amounts, it can be addictive like narcotics. Also it will not make you sick or drowsy at this dose, it does aid with ED as well at this low of a dose, most people just have high e2 as well and have to take a ton of prami to get it up...

Not to mention, test makes your postate the size of a softball, 19-nors only take your children, haha