Tren & Nolva

[Kick-Ass Stack]

hey guys. I finished a cycle of prop/tren/winny about 8 weeks ago. For PCT I used bromo and clomid. I'm considering running another cycle, however I plan on using HCG, bromo, and clomid this time. My main question is can I also use Nolvadex in my PCT.

Say this time I run my cycle but extended my use of prop an entire week or two after my last injection of tren (I only run tren for 4-5 weeks tops). Could I then run PCT of HCG and Clomid and 2 weeks after I start clomid run nolva?

I'm not sure if this would be advisable so I thought I'd get a vote from the peanut gallery.

My main reason of wanting to run nolva is to help in my PCT and for the cholesterol improving effects. My PCTs have been great so far and I'm excited to finally learn how to use HCG and I'd like to incorporate Nolva as well.

 

[bilter]

why would you not consider nolva? Is it due to the tren / prolactin issue? I run (and I am currently running ) 20mg of nolva PD with my prop/ tren / eq / proviron cycle.

 

[krishna]

why would you not consider nolva? Is it due to the tren / prolactin issue? I run (and I am currently running ) 20mg of nolva PD with my prop/ tren / eq / proviron cycle.

How is that working for you?

 

[rakasha681]

hey guys. I finished a cycle of prop/tren/winny about 8 weeks ago. For PCT I used bromo and clomid. I'm considering running another cycle, however I plan on using HCG, bromo, and clomid this time. My main question is can I also use Nolvadex in my PCT.

Say this time I run my cycle but extended my use of prop an entire week or two after my last injection of tren (I only run tren for 4-5 weeks tops). Could I then run PCT of HCG and Clomid and 2 weeks after I start clomid run nolva?

I'm not sure if this would be advisable so I thought I'd get a vote from the peanut gallery.

My main reason of wanting to run nolva is to help in my PCT and for the cholesterol improving effects. My PCTs have been great so far and I'm excited to finally learn how to use HCG and I'd like to incorporate Nolva as well.

Most people would advise not to, but just like aas, it really varries from person to person. Depends on how sensitive you are to the prolactin sides. And since the tren is pretty much out of your system by the time your planning on running the nolva, theres shouldnt really be much of a problem. The first cycle i ran with tren ace and test prop, i didnt know about the prolactin issue, and was running nolva 20mg ED for the first 2-3 weeks before i found out, and didnt run into any issues.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

why would you not consider nolva? Is it due to the tren / prolactin issue? I run (and I am currently running ) 20mg of nolva PD with my prop/ tren / eq / proviron cycle.

because nolva upregulates the PgR. the issue post use, though this will not happen with everyone, is that trenbolone can suppress natural progesterone. if progesterone is suppressed and the PgR upregulated this allows for other promiscuous binders to "go to work" on the PgR.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

it important to state that some people can use nolva after progestins (in some cases with them) without issue. There are POTENTIAL issues with using nolva and use response after using one progestin may definitely differ from another. ie you individually may use after tren with no problems and then try after nandrolone and present with gyno. Though also you may have not problem after either.

with clomid this is a non issue, as it does not upregulate the PgR.

 

[rakasha681]

it important to state that some people can use nolva after progestins (in some cases with them) without issue. There are POTENTIAL issues with using nolva and use response after using one progestin may definitely differ from another. ie you individually may use after tren with no problems and then try after nandrolone and present with gyno. Though also you may have not problem after either.

with clomid this is a non issue, as it does not upregulate the PgR.

Well said as always, macro.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

thanks.

find that its important to point out that when it comes to hormones, its rarely a "cookie-cutter" type world. There are vast individual differences, but there are underlying trends and being informed about them can make a world of difference.

 

[bilter]

How is that working for you?

its working great krish. But like macro says in posts below (actually above this one) there is a risk when one is trying this for the first time. I am one of the lucky ones and never seem to have issues with this (hope I didn't just jinx myself). But I am on week 7 and all is great and I have run in like this numerous times in the past.

Macro, just for reference what % of users do you think will experience the issue you describe. That may help with peeps disicion (but I do think having some bromo on hand for round 1 may be wise)

 

[macrophage69alpha]

there really is not enough data (feedback)... though age is definitely a factor as is repeated use.

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

thanks for the help macro!