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wayneboard1

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OK, so here is the general information I am finding about Tren as I search and learn. Yet when I read the posts I see some guys are getting night sweats, insomnia, etc. So, I wonder if you will help me get a COMPLETE profile on Tren to make an informed decision on weather to cycle this or not. While I know everyone is different and responds differently to certain gear what would you add or remove from this cut and paste profile below to get this newbie the ENTIRE profile good and bad about Tren? I can only get so much ionfo from a profile and want to partner that with some real world experience you all may or may not of had. I think this qualifies as a somewhat smart post and not "another damm newbie who doesn't want to do the research". If it does great, if not, oh well live and learn. ANy information or direction you can provide is appreciated. And yes I know you are not supposed to inject yourself in your frigin starfish. LOL Newbie or not that dude was a nitwit. :P


Active Life: Around 2 days
Drug Class: Anabolic/Androgenic Steroid (for injection)
Average Dose: Men 75 mg every day or two days
Acne: Yes
Water Retention: No
High Blood Pressure: Yes
Liver Toxic: Yes,debatable
Aromatization: No
DHT Conversion: No
Decrease HPTA function: Yes, moderate to extreme
Gyno: No
Rage Issues: Yes
MPB: ?????
Night Sweats: ?????
Insomnia: ?????
Fertility Issues: ?????

Trenbolone is a very potent androgen with strong anabolic activity. It is well suited for the rapid buildup of strength and muscle mass, usually providing the user exceptional results in a relatively short time period. The anabolic effect of this drug is often compared to popular bulking agents such as testosterone or Dianabol, with one very important difference. Trenbolone does not convert to estrogen. This is indeed a very unique compound since mass drugs, almost as a rule, will aromatize (or cause other estrogen related troubles) heavily. When we think of taking milder (regarding estrogen) steroids we usually expect much weaker muscle growth, but not so with Trenbolone. Here we do not have to worry about estrogen related side effects, yet still have an extremely potent mass/strength drug. There is no noticeable water retention, so the mass gained during a cycle of Trenbolone will be very hard and defined (providing fat levels are low enough). Gynecomastia is also not much of a concern, so there shouldn't be any need to addition an anti-estrogen if trenbolone is the only steroid administered.

The high androgen level resulting from this steroid, in the absence is excess estrogen, can also accelerate the burning of body fat. The result should be a much tighter physique, hopefully without the need for extreme dieting. Trenbolone can therefore help bring about an incredibly hard, ripped physique and is an ideal product for competitive bodybuilders.

Trenbolone is notably more potent than testosterone, and has an effect that is as much as three times as strong on a milligram for milligram basis. Likewise we can expect to see some level of androgenic side effects with use of this compound. Oily skin, aggressive behavior, acne and hair loss are therefore not uncommon during a cycle with this steroid. The androgenic nature of this drug of course makes it a very risky item for women to use, the chance for virilization symptoms extremely high with such a potent androgen.

Trenbolone is also much more potent than testosterone at suppressing endogenous androgen production. This makes clear the fact that estrogen is not the only culprit with negative feedback inhibition, as here there is no buildup of this hormone to report here. There is however some activity as a progestin inherent in this compound, as trenbolone is a 19-nortestosterone (nandrolone) derivative (a trait characteristic of these compounds). However it seems likely that much of its suppressive nature still stems from its powerful androgen action. With the strong impact trenbolone has on endogenous testosterone, of course the use of a stimulating drug such as HCG and/or Clomid/Nolvadex is recommended when concluding steroid therapy (a combination is preferred). Without their use it may take a prolonged period of time for the hormonal balance to resume, as the testes may at first not be able to normally respond to the resumed output of endogenous gonadotropins due to an atrophied state. Those who have used Trenbolone regularly would often claim it to be indispensable. A daily dosage of 37.5-75 mg is the most popular range when running a cycle. While Trenbolone is quite potent when used alone, it was generally combined with other steroids for an even greater effect. During a cutting phase one could add a non-aromatizing anabolic such as Winstrol or Primobolan. Such combinations will elicit a greater level density and hardness to the muscle. One could also bulk with this drug, with the addition of stronger compounds like Dianabol or Testosterone. While the mass gain would be quite formidable with such a stack, some level of water retention would probably also accompany it. Moderately effective anabolics such Deca-Durabolin or Equipoise would be somewhat of a halfway point, providing extra strength and mass but without the same level of water bloat we see with more readily aromatized steroids.
 
Anything that shuts down your HPTA will give you, "fertility issues." That is, while the HPTA is shut down, spermatogenesis (sperm production) is either shut down or inhibited. Whether it comes back later depends on several factors including biochemical individuality, how long you were shut down, how many times you've used in the past, and if you properly used HCG.
 
In reference to "rage," by the way: that's mostly urban mythology, my fine furry friend. Cheque Drops, Halo and megadoses of test will certainly increase aggression levels. But AAS also increases sex drive and juicers aren't running around raping MILFs in parking lots. Well, I haven't since Tuesday, anyway.

The point is, if you're concerned about emotional/behavioral changes, I think that risky sexual behaviors and post-cycle depression are much more realistic concerns than "rage."
 
OK so a couple of more questions after the reading the replies today.

1) Is it safe/not safe to use an OTC sleeping pill to help you get some sleep or can this interfer with or complicate gear? I am one of those people that needs 8 hours of sleep every night or I cannot literally function the next day let alone work out. There are times that I can't sleep and I bit a sominex in half and it is just enough to get me to sleep where I stay until 6AM. But thats only 2-3 times in a month.

2) Is the issue of infertility AFTER being off gear that common? I assume it depends on the gear you are cycling but it may be a concern across the board. My plan is really to only do 1 cycle to bulk and 1 cycle to cut and then maintain the crap out of what I have until after I have kids. I do understand while cycling kids can be harder to conceive but my concern are the long term irreversable effects.
 
wayneboard1 said:
OK so a couple of more questions after the reading the replies today.

1) Is it safe/not safe to use an OTC sleeping pill to help you get some sleep or can this interfer with or complicate gear? I am one of those people that needs 8 hours of sleep every night or I cannot literally function the next day let alone work out. There are times that I can't sleep and I bit a sominex in half and it is just enough to get me to sleep where I stay until 6AM. But thats only 2-3 times in a month.

2) Is the issue of infertility AFTER being off gear that common? I assume it depends on the gear you are cycling but it may be a concern across the board. My plan is really to only do 1 cycle to bulk and 1 cycle to cut and then maintain the crap out of what I have until after I have kids. I do understand while cycling kids can be harder to conceive but my concern are the long term irreversable effects.

I've tried about every OTC sleeping aid there is and none worked while on Tren.....Prescription worked like a champ but then you just wake up 7 hours later in a pool of sweat.
 
wayneboard1 said:
OK so a couple of more questions after the reading the replies today.

1) Is it safe/not safe to use an OTC sleeping pill to help you get some sleep or can this interfer with or complicate gear? I am one of those people that needs 8 hours of sleep every night or I cannot literally function the next day let alone work out. There are times that I can't sleep and I bit a sominex in half and it is just enough to get me to sleep where I stay until 6AM. But thats only 2-3 times in a month.

2) Is the issue of infertility AFTER being off gear that common? I assume it depends on the gear you are cycling but it may be a concern across the board. My plan is really to only do 1 cycle to bulk and 1 cycle to cut and then maintain the crap out of what I have until after I have kids. I do understand while cycling kids can be harder to conceive but my concern are the long term irreversable effects.

This is not a flame whatsoever, but after reading your posts, I think other AAS may be better for you. No offense, but it seems like you know very little about the subject in general and tren is, at least in some senses of the phrase, an 'advanced' AAS. That is to say, you can fuck up more with a tren shot than you can with another shot -- tren cough, for instance. Why not a nice long ester test stacked with some var or something of that nature? What exactly are your goals?
 
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