Tren help

[Slinde88]

Never used tren before and I want to include it in my next cycle to work best with what I'm taking it. This is my second (legitimate) cycle

Weeks 1-12 test e 400mgs a week (split)
Weeks 1-4 dbol 40mgs ED (kickstart) I know people hate on dbol but I've used it several times in the past and it works well with my body.
TREN ?????? <---- this is where my focus is. What would you guys run ??

Pct will follow as always with milk thistle and all other fancy support supps during.

Another question is, I'm aware you can buy nolvadex/Clomid on breast cancer research websites, can you do the same with aromasin and arimidex?


I'm 24 190 lbs. been off for 9 months. Peak weight was 220lbs. I went on short little diet about 2 months ago to shed about 10 pounds to prepare for this cycle. I'm about 15% bodyfat. Lifts are decent (315 on the bench press, 400 on deadlifts, max 20 plates on leg press) I want to maintain my bodyfat, maybe even lower it if possible, while gaining as much muscle as possible. My diet is in check. 4000 calories. 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fats. I also plan to run aromasin the entire cycle eod just to be safe. Hope that helps guys

Thanks guys in advance

 

[northernknight]

People hate on Dbol? Who on earth hates Dbols, I thought it was completely opposite of that
(or maybe neutral opinion at max), lol!! I <3 Dbols...

You sure that you want to run Tren on your second cycle? Tren is no joke, and it's IMO better to still save it a bit further ahead until you have done few more cycles with other compounds first. On your second cycle there are many other AAS and other PEDs that you can use depending on your goals. That's up to you of course, just my opinion.

Post up your detailed stats, history, and goals, so ppl will be able to help you out.

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[dylangemelli]

its hard to give advice when i have no clue what i am working with bro... you need to give stats to get the proper help...

 

[stevesmi]

200mg a week tren
drop your test down

you don't need dbol with tren. 2 compounds is enough. your bp is gonna be strained enough

 

[bonacris]

Never used tren before and I want to include it in my next cycle to work best with what I'm taking it. This is my second (legitimate) cycle

Weeks 1-12 test e 400mgs a week (split)
Weeks 1-4 dbol 40mgs ED (kickstart) I know people hate on dbol but I've used it several times in the past and it works well with my body.
TREN ?????? <---- this is where my focus is. What would you guys run ??

Pct will follow as always with milk thistle and all other fancy support supps during.

Another question is, I'm aware you can buy nolvadex/Clomid on breast cancer research websites, can you do the same with aromasin and arimidex?


I'm 24 190 lbs. been off for 9 months. Peak weight was 220lbs. I went on short little diet about 2 months ago to shed about 10 pounds to prepare for this cycle. I'm about 15% bodyfat. Lifts are decent (315 on the bench press, 400 on deadlifts, max 20 plates on leg press) I want to maintain my bodyfat, maybe even lower it if possible, while gaining as much muscle as possible. My diet is in check. 4000 calories. 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fats. I also plan to run aromasin the entire cycle eod just to be safe. Hope that helps guys

Thanks guys in advance

One of the best cycles I've done is

Test e 250mg week 1-12
Dbol 30mg week 1-4
Tren ace 300mg week 5-12

Keeping test low meant I had very little sides even with tren. Make sure to have prami or caber on hard with tren.

Also you PCT needs to be stronger than nolva and clomid

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[Slinde88]

200mg a week tren
drop your test down

you don't need dbol with tren. 2 compounds is enough. your bp is gonna be strained enough

What would you drop it down to?? Last cycle I ran I did 500mgs of test e a week. Should I drop it to 200mgs?

 

[RickRock13]

We still need your stats bro.

You may want to start off low with Tren like Steve suggested and keep test lower to see how you react. Make sure you run some dostinex (Caber) with the Tren

Clomid, nolva, aromasin, and Dostinex are all available and 100% legit at www.ag-guys.com

Make sure you have your PCT covered bro. It's more important than the cycle itself for keeping gains, and recovering your libido and test levels quickly


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[dylangemelli]

test at 250-350... tren at 400... make sure you are running GW-501516 with tren to combat the cardio issues as well as helping bp and cholesterol... also run n2guard with it to fully protect yourself... aromasin and caber both need to be used as well as hcgenerate es...

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1-10 tren e 400 mg week
1-10 caber .5 mg e3d
1-14 n2guard
5-12 hcgenerate es
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

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[Slinde88]

Alright thanks guys it looks like I'm goin with this set up

Week 1-4 ::: 40 mgs of dbol
Week 1-12 ::: 400 mgs test e (split)
Week 1-12 ::: 200 mgs tren e (split)
Week 1-12 ::: aromasin EOD 20mgs
Week 14-16 ::: post cycle combo with noladex

(For some odd reason, the aromasin is going to cost me more than my whole cycle from my guy. A lot of you guys promote that liquid aromasin stuff which I have no idea about and how to use. Is that my best bet?)

I recently changed my lifts for this cycle..your opinion?

DAY 1 ::: Back, biceps, traps (2 different back days, 1week is pull ups motions & next is rows
DAY 2 ::: Legs, abs, boxing (boxing for cardio)
DAY 3 ::: Chest, triceps, shoulders
DAY 4 ::: Rest
REPEAT

 

[stevesmi]

test at no more than 250mg a week

tren at 200-250mg a week is ample. 400 is a max dose but since its your first run just go with 200 this time.

dbol again you do not need even though you are running long esters the dbol will only spike side effects. but hey do what you want.. you don't need to run anything with tren for it to work well much less 2 wet compounds.. i never ran tren with more than 1 compound so not sure why newbs instead on stacking a bunch of things with it, it is counter productive when you can't sleep or you feel like shit!