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Tren Handbook....must read!

can u plz give me an example of a stack containing Test E , Tren E and Eq (cuz that what i have on hand right now) my goal is to lean bulk , and for how long is it still safe ? what my pct should look like?
Age: 30 y
Height: 6'
Weight:180 lbs (started at 132 lbs 6 years ago)
Body fat % : i really don't know but i can see my packs

i've done 5 cycles in the past mostly Test , Deca , Winny
my last cycle was Tren ace and Test prop for 8 weeks nice results for a cutting cycle, so i'm aware of the sides , but it's the first time using Tren E and Equipoise.
 
Way too many drugs for me...

Firstly: I say fuck winstrol and fuck T3 too.

T3 fucked me up but I am finally back.. I'd use Iodine (from seaweed, kelp) and tyrosine instead..

Winstrol is hard on your cholesterol, liver (like any oral) and joints/tendons. What else could I use?

I also hate fucking with ancilliaries like Bromocriptine and Arimidex.. Do I HAVE to?

Why Tren Acetate, couldn't we use Trenbolone Enanthate or Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate?
 
I know this old but I have some ?'s

There are so many different opinions on how to effectively run Test Prop and Tren Ace that it's hard to decide how to do it.

I definitely want to run Ace in order to hold off the sides in case they get out of line and also I've heard that it's a bit more effective with reduced sides.

Next I am leaning towards running HCG and Proviron in order to get the absolute best results.

I've heard so many different opinions on what AI and PCT used that I'm kind of boggled and keep on wondering what to do.

I heard that some people use winny for AI purposes,

welll nedless to say.

I need some opinions.
 
thanks for the bump and the recognition bro! :) Funny how big this thread grew, I was sitting down one day before the gym and after much research and experience good and bad with tren I compiled the most important and effective ways to run tren.

I guess now after a long 6 month run at 80-100mg ed of tren ace I would add that over 80mg breathing problems become very pronounced but subside after about 5 days of stoppping tren. Also....make sure to ALWAYS run test past your tren shots and use something like caber/dost, or last resort winstrol or letro to manage prog/prolactin after stopping the tren...even while running 1 g of test I dropped the tren and had libido, emotional issues.

Would you run both? Winstrol and another prog?

Also, I've heard HCG helps alot ran during the tren, what would you suggest?

btw I plan on doing

test prop 75 ed
and tren ace 50 ed
 
this is a horrible thread. The op wreaks of bro science and is just parroting the stupid $hit he has heard over the years that isn't true. I could pick apart every stupid bullet point, but I won't bother since this is over 3 years old. I am in favor of deleting this thread
 
this is a horrible thread. The op wreaks of bro science and is just parroting the stupid $hit he has heard over the years that isn't true. I could pick apart every stupid bullet point, but I won't bother since this is over 3 years old. I am in favor of deleting this thread

If you wouldn't mind, I would greatly apreciate it if you did pick apart every bullet or gave some better advice.

Before reading your post, I thought this was one of the better threads on how to run Tren.

I want to run a Test Prop/ Tren Ace cycle.

It's hard to decide the best way to do it because their is so many opinions on how to do so.

Right now, I'm thinking Prop/Ace/ Proviron/ HCG and a Clomid PCT. Armidex and/or Bromi on hand just in case.

The T3/ winny thing makes sense but I'm thinking it's too many compounds.

As you can tell, I'm still a bit undecided, so if you have the time I would encourage you to post on this.

Thanks
 
so what ai should be best used for tren?

will proviron do the job?
how much will 25 mg winstrol ed effect the tendons and joints?
 
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