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Tren for 6 or 8 weeks?
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AnabolicDiabetic
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If its your first time, I'd go with two 4 weeks cycles with some clomid in between.
FreakMonster
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I'm on the same cycle too.
Go 6-8 weeks for sure.
Go 6-8 weeks for sure.
Genetic Freak 33
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I'm gonna do it for 8 weeks ... I'm approaching my sixth this week coming up
Transcend1
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8 weeks is good
Go for it, I have heard of many people going on for almost double that time. I am using 60mg/Day(injecting for 8 weeks on my cycle I just started and it is my first time with Fina myself.
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evilution79
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Tren is hard on the kidneys. I would stick with 6 weeks to be safe if you are a new user
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flickenu
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evilution- thanks to your signature i now have a new reason to read the boards, besides amaf's posts.
evilution79 said:
Bill Roberts wrote the following on this topic:
There used to be a myth that trenbolone was "hard on the kidneys." I have found no indication in the scientific literature of particular kidney toxicity with trenbolone. I know a number of users, at doses of 50-100 mg/day, who have experienced no problems. It seems to me that the claims that have been made were from athletes stacking an incredible amount of drugs, and how the blame could have fairly been laid at trenbolone (actually at Parabolan, not trenbolone acetate) is not clear.
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Stew Meat
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The ONLY time I have ever had problems with my kidneys was while using tren... That was on top of 2000mg/day of cranberry extract and 1 gallon of water per day. The problems occured 4 weeks into my use of tren. WCP saw similar results of kidney damage when he surpasssed the 6 week point... but his condition became much more serious. I'll let him go into detail...
I STRONGLY recomend going beyond 6 weeks of tren.
Keep in mind Parabolan was NOT trenbelone acetate.
-Stew
I STRONGLY recomend going beyond 6 weeks of tren.
Keep in mind Parabolan was NOT trenbelone acetate.
-Stew
Scotsman
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Nice post KOEN here is the whole write up by Bill. I agree with his idea that most people only see problems when stacking multiple things together and for some reason only blame the fina. I have done cycles of up to 200mg per day and never had any problems.
Cheers,
Scotsman
by Bill Roberts - While Finaject itself is no longer available, in some cases injectable preparations from Finaplix have been made. The substance is the same: trenbolone acetate.
Trenbolone is a steroid having the advantages of undergoing no adverse metabolism, not being affected by aromatase or 5alpha-reductase; of being very potent Class I steroid binding well to the androgen receptor; and having a short half life, probably no more than a day or two though I don't believe this has been measured. Fifty milligrams per day is a good dosing for someone on his first cycle or someone who is as yet less than, say, 20 pounds over his natural limit; while 100 mg/day may be preferred by the more advanced user who has already gained more than this. These doses are assuming that trenbolone is the only Class I steroid being use. There really is no need to stack another -- testosterone being the only sensible exception -- but if another is stacked then the amount of trenbolone may be reduced accordingly.
There is no evidence in the literature, nor I think practical evidence, that trenbolone acetate has a "special role" in burning fat. Rather, it is an extraordinarily potent AAS, being about three times as effective per milligram as testosterone esters. This seems to apply only to Class I activity, however. To obtain good anabolism from non-AR-mediated mechanisms, a Class II steroid such as Dianabol or Anadrol should be stacked.
There used to be a myth that trenbolone was "hard on the kidneys." I have found no indication in the scientific literature of particular kidney toxicity with trenbolone. I know a number of users, at doses of 50-100 mg/day, who have experienced no problems. It seems to me that the claims that have been made were from athletes stacking an incredible amount of drugs, and how the blame could have fairly been laid at trenbolone (actually at Parabolan, not trenbolone acetate) is not clear.
It is also not clear that trenbolone results in any greater degree of increased aggression for a given amount of anabolic effect than testosterone itself does, despite another myth to that effect. The increase in aggressive tendency -- which does not mean the act of aggression -- is moderate and entirely controllable, if noticeable at all.
Cheers,
Scotsman
by Bill Roberts - While Finaject itself is no longer available, in some cases injectable preparations from Finaplix have been made. The substance is the same: trenbolone acetate.
Trenbolone is a steroid having the advantages of undergoing no adverse metabolism, not being affected by aromatase or 5alpha-reductase; of being very potent Class I steroid binding well to the androgen receptor; and having a short half life, probably no more than a day or two though I don't believe this has been measured. Fifty milligrams per day is a good dosing for someone on his first cycle or someone who is as yet less than, say, 20 pounds over his natural limit; while 100 mg/day may be preferred by the more advanced user who has already gained more than this. These doses are assuming that trenbolone is the only Class I steroid being use. There really is no need to stack another -- testosterone being the only sensible exception -- but if another is stacked then the amount of trenbolone may be reduced accordingly.
There is no evidence in the literature, nor I think practical evidence, that trenbolone acetate has a "special role" in burning fat. Rather, it is an extraordinarily potent AAS, being about three times as effective per milligram as testosterone esters. This seems to apply only to Class I activity, however. To obtain good anabolism from non-AR-mediated mechanisms, a Class II steroid such as Dianabol or Anadrol should be stacked.
There used to be a myth that trenbolone was "hard on the kidneys." I have found no indication in the scientific literature of particular kidney toxicity with trenbolone. I know a number of users, at doses of 50-100 mg/day, who have experienced no problems. It seems to me that the claims that have been made were from athletes stacking an incredible amount of drugs, and how the blame could have fairly been laid at trenbolone (actually at Parabolan, not trenbolone acetate) is not clear.
It is also not clear that trenbolone results in any greater degree of increased aggression for a given amount of anabolic effect than testosterone itself does, despite another myth to that effect. The increase in aggressive tendency -- which does not mean the act of aggression -- is moderate and entirely controllable, if noticeable at all.
FreakMonster
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Stew Meat said:
Don't you mean you Strongly don't recommend going beyond 6 weeks, Is this what your saying?
evilution79
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Stew Meat said:
Stew - What doses were you taking and was it injected or transdermal?
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Stew Meat
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FreakMonster said:
Woa!!! I damn sure did! I STRONGLY recomend NOT going past 6 weeks of trenbelone acetate...
Can't believe I didn't catch that!
-Stew
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Stew Meat
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evilution79 said:
Injecting 100mg EOD...
BTW, ANYTHING that increases protein synthesis is going to be hard on the kidneys... since trenbelone is such a strong anabolic, its strain on the kidneys is going to be far worse than most other steroids... which is evidence that is a great choice for muscle gain.
-Stew
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