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Dancer....i still just want to know why you wanted us to see your pic results. BTW who cares how long he's been here, he's contributed alot more to this board then you have. all you have done is spectated which is fine but he's not a newbie by any means
 
As for proof: I agree with Andy and he seams to think that long ester are more effective. I talked to him about a year ago via email. He has also posted many times about this subject.






Andy13
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posted 05-11-2002 04:49 PM
You are correct in that a testosterone ester, injected IM, is stored and released slowly. Can we all agree that when an AAS in injected IM, it slowly is released into the blood where it is de-esterified to an active androgen? Ok--

And since you are a mechanical engineer, you should recognize the fact that the rate of diffusion of the AAS from the site of injection is exponentially related to the size of the depot. And as the size of the depot decreases, so does the rate of diffusion from the site of injection.


The equation for amount of esterified testosterone remaining after x (day, hours) is k*e^(ln(1/2)*x/h), where k= amount injected, x=day/hour you are interested in and h=half life (x and h units must be consistant).
If you are interested in the derivation of this equation, check out your Diff equ book.

The amount of ACTIVE or, released testosterone over one day/hour is simply the difference between two x values.

But, besides all the math stuff.. This one's actually pretty logical.. Testosterone is released the FASTEST from the site of injection when the size of the injection is largest.. And, when the size of the injection is largest is..... Immediately after the injection! Does this make any sence? Sustanon's esters DO NOT release one by one.. They ALL release at the same time, albeit some slower than others. The prop esters rate of release is faster then the deconate ester.. But, regardless, the PEAK blood testosterone from any single injection of sustanon is seen about 24hrs after it is injected. I've done this math/graphs ad naseum. I've also seen actual blood test graphs-- the theoretical graphs (from the equation I gave) is remarkably similar to the the actual blood tests.. So much that we may plot these mathematical graphs and assume they are, for our purposes, accurate.

Contrary to belief, the graph of a single shot of sustanon does not look like a pyrymid, suggesting that the PEAK blood levels are seen some 3-4-5-6 days after the initial injection.

Actually, the graph looks much like a ski sloap.. It has a SHARP up spike and then gradually sloaps down from there..

Do the math- you will see. I wish I could figure out how to plot these graphs on this board.

Andy

http://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/...2093973&f=312093973&m=7733045915&r=1573048035


Its a good read. That thread is very educational
 
I really wanted to stay out of this because I have my own history with dancer, but bro, don't be posting your pics as proof to the products working or not because frankly, anyone could get the gains you got without gear by simply adjusting diet and working out. For someone taking over a gram of test/week, with over 100mg tren/day, 20mg halo/day, not to mention masteron for two months I would expect much more shape, hardness and size. For having supposedly over two years of cycle experience under his belt I would not be proud.


Corleone so nice to see.

I would like to elaborate on my past cycles. I have gone as high as 3 grams of aas a week in the past.

Perhaps 25 pounds of gain in aggregate weight is nothing some of you but to me this is much to say the least also, the heaviest I have been and 25 is more than I have gained during any cycle in the past 3 years.

BTW Corleone check you math bro,

"someone taking over a gram of test/week"

actually bro 300 mgs of test cyp is less than a gram, only during the first 2 weeks I ran a gram but never "over".



So this is a light cycle by all means for me.


"don't be posting your pics as proof to the products working or not because frankly, anyone could get the gains you got without gear by simply adjusting diet and working out."

I agree fully that an adjustment of diet and working out makes a difference in fact if the title of the thread was "anyone could get the gains you got without gear by simply adjusting diet and working out" I would say true but that is not what the thread is about, correct?

I said it before and I'll say it again I used it and it worked for me. More over, could you please point to where I said, "here are my pics as proof that tren ent works"... read my post again I simply share my experience.
 
dancer said:


actually bro 300 mgs of test cyp is less than a gram, only during the first 2 weeks I ran a gram but never "over".


Guess I didn't read far enough down your graph. Well then by all means you got great gains. :p When are you gonna go pro?

dancer said:


I would like to elaborate on my past cycles. I have gone as high as 3 grams of aas a week in the past.


I've seen you in the past and you looked like shit then.


Man, I don't know why you choose to start a war whenever anyone questions a s**** product but you need to quit this shit, it's not good. I know you believe in the company but you don't need to shove it down our throats.

And I'll say it so others don't have to: not only do you look bad for someone who juices, you look bad for someone who works out.

Man I don't know why I waste my time, I knew I should have stayed out of this post. I'll let others tear you to shreds, I'm out of this one.
 
Corleone said:


Guess I didn't read far enough down your graph. Well then by all means you got great gains. :p When are you gonna go pro?



I've seen you in the past and you looked like shit then.


Man, I don't know why you choose to start a war whenever anyone questions a s**** product but you need to quit this shit, it's not good. I know you believe in the company but you don't need to shove it down our throats.

And I'll say it so others don't have to: not only do you look bad for someone who juices, you look bad for someone who works out.

Man I don't know why I waste my time, I knew I should have stayed out of this post. I'll let others tear you to shreds, I'm out of this one.

nah not going pro bro, I prefer to dance around on stage ;)

hey let me know when at 5'10" you get to 226 cause at 5'7" I am already there are ready to get to the 240s. :rolleyes:
 
Dancer, you think thats proof that enth is stronger than prop? You really are stupid...worse than I originally thought. Plus you look like shit--who knows maybe its just your genetics. Also at 5'7'' you should look like a monster with all that shit you took.
 
Pretty cut and dry there bro....lol

you been on since MARCH 17 and you are still on, I was on for 8 weeks and I am of!

AT THERE DOSAGES:

100mg/qv prop/day
50mg reforv dbol for 3 weeks, then lowered it because of high bp down to 25mg for another 3 weeks for a total of 6 weeks of dbol
375mg qv deca week

MAY 12- CURRENT
50mg tren ed
375mg qv enan eod


so let me understand this: from MARCH 17 to 2 weeks ago you got to 215 and in the last 2 weeks you gained 5 pounds more, lol

well great keep going I am 226 yeah there is that little detail that I am 2 full inches shorter.

I agree I used less aas and in relative time frame that is around half as much as yours I gained more proportionally...

Still thought let me know when you get to 226 ;)
 
You're really making yourself look like an ass. You have no room to talk about my build. You look like a pudgy piece of shit. You're nothing but a wannabe fag lap dancer.

Yea so I planned a 5 month cycle, so what's your point? My bloodwork came back fine last month, what are you trying to prove? I see nothing wrong with staying on for 5 months when I've been off the last 7 months. I know my body a lot better than someone like you who doesn't even know their own.

It doesn't really matter what you think. Your AAS knowledge is laughable and obviously you don't know how to workout or you'd look like someone who works out. To me you look like the average wannabe who works out once a week. You're a putz.

This is pointless. . .I love message board shit talkers.
 
Corleone said:
You're really making yourself look like an ass. You have no room to talk about my build. You look like a pudgy piece of shit. You're nothing but a wannabe fag lap dancer.

Yea so I planned a 5 month cycle, so what's your point? My bloodwork came back fine last month, what are you trying to prove? I see nothing wrong with staying on for 5 months when I've been off the last 7 months. I know my body a lot better than someone like you who doesn't even know their own.

It doesn't really matter what you think. Your AAS knowledge is laughable and obviously you don't know how to workout or you'd look like someone who works out. To me you look like the average wannabe who works out once a week. You're a putz.

This is pointless. . .I love message board shit talkers.


So let me understand this, you say you have been on for 5 months at the lowest dosage you took

50mg tren ed
375mg qv enan eod

a one week average of 1662.5MG EVERY WEEK.

I have WAS ON for 2 months at the lowest dosage I took 1390 MG EVERY Week

You damn right trash talker fuck this board up, negative assholes like you.

Shit son you used more and gained less unless the number are full of shit! Wait, no you are!


I am pudge piece of shit @ 13.8 % then you are what, arnold...lol

go ahead asshole argue with the numbers... :rolleyes:

After seeing you 155 pound bitch with teeth comming out of her pussy any man would want to be a "fag lap dancer".

Post pics of her please I need a laugh.... :angel:
 
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