Tren dosages - first time tren user

[Cali72]

Thats the first Ive heard of this. Usually the rule of thumb is "test base". Are there any sexual sides seeing as its a nandrolone?

Tren is a nandrolone?
That's a first.

 

[-SD-]

you haven't been reading my posts then if thats the first you've heard of this. tren isn't a nandrolone at all. you just have to combat prolactin with caber and you are g2g.

you don't need to run test with tren at all. if someone cannot gain on tren alone then their workouts must be awful.

something like primo or masteron you most certainly should stack it with something anabolic to give it a nice kick to get more bang. but tren? doesn't need anything with it

Thats good news then since it will be easier to judge tren on its own merits in a stand alone cycle instead of stacked

 

[stevesmi]

Thats good news then since it will be easier to judge tren on its own merits in a stand alone cycle instead of stacked

i'm working with some guys right now through PM's who are running tren only cycles. and they absolutely love it.

here is what they have told me

cheaper
less juice/less injections to deal with
same results
easier to recover from
no estrogen worries during or after cycle
less sides

just make sure you take your caber, hcgenerate, and n2guard and you run your PCT and you will be g2g. and the beauty about it is that you only need 350mg of tren a week to get tremendous results.. vs. running tren + 500mg of test which comes out to 850mg of juice... i rarely run more than 400mg a week of juice on any cycle, i don't use juice to make gains.. i use it to compliment my workouts and diet. some guys run 2 or 3 grams a week of juice and half ass their workouts, hey its their body.

 

[-SD-]

Tren is a nandrolone?
That's a first.

Meant to say its derived from nandrolone

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ it is a derivative of nandrolone but unlike deca you don't gotta worry about estrogen and progesterone.

I think tren is actually far more easier to recover from than what i hear from guys. i've had an easy time recovering from it even easier than test and i believe the reason is all you have to worry about with it is combating your prolactin.. don't have to worry about estrogen at all since it cannot convert .. the guys that complain about it i would bet fail to run caber with it, and i have no doubt that high prolactin levels are gonna result in a lot of penis problems that guys report.

the one thing about tren though that is a negative is the sides. its not for everyone and a lot of guys cannot handle the sides though. n2guard though helps bigtime. without support supps it will get unbearable around week 4 or 5. the pumps and the high bp get really really bad.

 

[ALIN]

Test 500
Tren ace 50mg everyday

You will love this. Everyday has a lot less sides than eod. Add some proviron at 50mg a day and you love the cycle

Alot of the guys I work with have been switching over to daily injections with TREN ACE
and reporting better results,,less sides,,,with even a low dose. My buddies are using
35-40mg ED.

 

[Power36]

What dosing of Caber do you guys use with Tren, is there some generic formulas for dose of caber with certain dose of Tren? Daily dose or EOD of caber etc?

Hmmmm never knew you shouldnt run Test with Tren! I always thought it was like Deca and you could get sexual side effects so to keep Test higher....

Interesting....

 

[moya]

dont tell me you get the same results as running it with test... ima have to call bs on that one... it may not be a huge ammount as if you were running the test standalone, but it has to be doing something.... there is no way you can tell me on the exact same workout and diet that you will do better on 350 tren only then 500-750 test and the 350 tren... it cant be totally useless... maybe not efficient, but most definitely worthwhile as test is dirt cheap...

 

[Typo]

Steve, what is your opinion on tren a ED vs EOD injections?

 

[stevesmi]

dont tell me you get the same results as running it with test... ima have to call bs on that one... it may not be a huge ammount as if you were running the test standalone, but it has to be doing something.... there is no way you can tell me on the exact same workout and diet that you will do better on 350 tren only then 500-750 test and the 350 tren... it cant be totally useless... maybe not efficient, but most definitely worthwhile as test is dirt cheap...

the sides are much higher when you stack them.. i have logs up of my tren only runs so you can be the judge as the results. I set my PR on my tren without test only run stacking tren with var and not test... i would rather guys stack tren with var, winny, or dbol for stronger results than test and save themselves injections. when i finish my current run you can be the judge too.

i think that guys overrate results based on what they are taking vs. the workouts. i have found the stronger my workouts the better results i get. I'm not anti-test.. I ran a test only cycle last late summer i think. and my next cycle I will be dumping tren and going with test + ?? ... i do believe that runing tren alone does the job though and you just don't need to stack it with test for results. but i will let you all try it yourself and be your own judges.