i have done 6 weekers of tren alone 2 times... sex drive was strange... but still got benifits.. for the short 6 week cycle... but if you can add test.. is a plus..
but if you cant... everyone is different... and at least you know... and it wont be a suprise...
20mg d-bol should not be that bad with estrogen... but everyone is different...
i am good with 25... but if i up to 50 i look like a blow fish