Tren, and thyroid hormones

[beachhead06]

O.K., so I know there has been a lot of discussion about trenbolone recently, but what I want to research is the correlation between Trenbolone, and thyroid hormones.

We know that thyroid hormones such as T3, and T4, and tyrosine increase Basal Metabolic rate, sensitivity to catecholamines (such a adrenaline, noradrenaline, and dopamine), and affect protein synthesis. Thyroid hormones are responsible for balancing body temperature, and it is understood that trenbolone reduces natural T3, T4, and tyrosine levels which would explain why some people experience night sweets while using trenbolone. So it is clear that healthy thyroid function is important to supporting muscular development and overall well being.

(Question, Thyroid hormones are responsible for the hibernating cycles of mammals so would altered thyroid hormone levels explain why some people feel so lethargic why using trenbolone?)
(Question, for the big guys using 800+ mgs a week of test or any 19-nandrolone compound, do you get night sweats?) I’d also like to research the correlation that a heavy cycle has on thyroid hormone levels

 

[paridhm]

While I can't speak for your T3 or T4 part of the question. I've read that there is a corelation (sp) between carb intake near bedtime and night sweats while taking tren.

 

[beachhead06]

Yes, I have heard something about avoiding carbs before bed to prevent night sweats. Some sort of correlation with thyroid hormones being responsible for protein, fat, and carbohydrate metabolism, and also heat generation in humans.

So what else do any of the more experienced bros know about the importance of stacking trenbolone with T3, or T4? The reason I ask is because I am trying to understand how to reduce the severity and number of trenbolone side effects.

 

[halfcenturian]

Tren has a tendancy to lower T3. So we take it to keep T3 levels up to normal or maybe a little on the high side.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

O.K., so I know there has been a lot of discussion about trenbolone recently, but what I want to research is the correlation between Trenbolone, and thyroid hormones.

We know that thyroid hormones such as T3, and T4, and tyrosine increase Basal Metabolic rate, sensitivity to catecholamines (such a adrenaline, noradrenaline, and dopamine), and affect protein synthesis. Thyroid hormones are responsible for balancing body temperature, and it is understood that trenbolone reduces natural T3, T4, and tyrosine levels which would explain why some people experience night sweets while using trenbolone. So it is clear that healthy thyroid function is important to supporting muscular development and overall well being.

(Question, Thyroid hormones are responsible for the hibernating cycles of mammals so would altered thyroid hormone levels explain why some people feel so lethargic why using trenbolone?)
(Question, for the big guys using 800+ mgs a week of test or any 19-nandrolone compound, do you get night sweats?) I’d also like to research the correlation that a heavy cycle has on thyroid hormone levels

Good question, I am on week 8 of Tren E, and feeling pretty damn lethargic. No night sweats, though, and I eat carbs at night.

 

[225mygoal]

I have used tren, and I have to say it's my favorite. Now with that said, everyone is different I wouldn't use and T3 with out first consulting a doctor. I don't ever recommend messing with thyroid, it can go horribly wrong and that is something that you don't want to deal with.

The point is to always check everything before you introduce any synthetic in to your body!

Peace!
225mygoal

 

[eddymerckx]

I have used tren, and I have to say it's my favorite. Now with that said, everyone is different I wouldn't use and T3 with out first consulting a doctor. I don't ever recommend messing with thyroid, it can go horribly wrong and that is something that you don't want to deal with.

The point is to always check everything before you introduce any synthetic in to your body!

Peace!
225mygoal

a year ago I would have said your reticence to use t-3 w/o consulting a doc is just overcautious….now I agree that unless you are making a living at this or at least competing, messing w/t-3 is not worth it.

 

[airsmith2k]

a year ago I would have said your reticence to use t-3 w/o consulting a doc is just overcautious….now I agree that unless you are making a living at this or at least competing, messing w/t-3 is not worth it.

ive used t-3 before and ive been using 25mcg a day now for like 2 months i dont see why people think its so dangerous.....and yeah i take tren and i get nightsweats bad to begin with but now its insane...i wake up literally puddles it sucks....notice alot of cramps too when i run tren

 

[beachhead06]

Now I thought T-3 was suppose to reduce un wanted sides of trenbolone so, why are people so catious about t-3? Granted trenbolone is already some pretty strong stuff...

 

[airsmith2k]

Now I thought T-3 was suppose to reduce un wanted sides of trenbolone so, why are people so catious about t-3? Granted trenbolone is already some pretty strong stuff...

im also runnin a ton of hgh test and some other stuff along with tren and t-3....im going for the side show freak look

 

[halfcenturian]

If you have a normal thyroid (thyroid function appears normal) on Blood Work
Why the hesitation? Clearly T3 and Tren have been used successfully for years.

The folks in the crowd (myself included) would like to know the specific NEGATIVE outcomes T3 can cause. Irreversable, untreatable thyroid
function? ....Growing hair on your palms???

If my swiss cheese memory serves, the worst that could happen is that you would need full time thyroid meds to balance things out. That's not a great outcome , but Is there more danger..... Like growing a Vagina.....?

 

[beachhead06]

Anyone with a negative experience with T-3 feel free to post up and let us know the details of how much T-3 you were using, which anabolic androgenic steroids, etc...

 

[sensational]

If you have a normal thyroid (thyroid function appears normal) on Blood Work
Why the hesitation? Clearly T3 and Tren have been used successfully for years.

The folks in the crowd (myself included) would like to know the specific NEGATIVE outcomes T3 can cause. Irreversable, untreatable thyroid
function? ....Growing hair on your palms???

If my swiss cheese memory serves, the worst that could happen is that you would need full time thyroid meds to balance things out. That's not a great outcome , but Is there more danger..... Like growing a Vagina.....?

lol

Eddy, what did your blood work look like after your long t3 run?

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Tren suppreses t3 levels which lead to prolactin buildup, t3 supresses prolactin.

 

[chipshill]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I'm struggling to find the info I'm looking for regarding this. I had thyroid cancer about 7 years ago and am on T3 daily for life as it is. Would it simply be a case of increase my dose to even things out?

p.s. forgot to mention, due to the past illness, the operation removed my thyroid, so i have none.

 

[Kbordner]

Here are my rules ( for whatever that's worth)
To lessen Tren sides....Mast P/T3 and GH if you have the cash
If running GH use T4
If no GH T3
I run the T4 at 100mcg and the T3 at 50( HG)
If you are on permanent T3( thyroid removal) and you are taking 50mcg daily you could try upping to 75 but be careful

To check T3 to see if it's working buy an ear thermometer. Check your temp each morning. With the additional T3 your base temp should rise approx.3 degrees( that's 3/10) if it doesn't raise the dose by 25mcg until this is achieved. Ken

 

[plazmic]

The linkage of sweating (at any time) and tren are due to its ability to completely halt lipogensis (converting carbs to fat)... Virtually every carb you eat is used immediately for normal functions, then a levels that exceed normal capacity are packed into muscle cells as glycogen. Anything beyond that limit is burned off and not stored as fat, hence the raised temps and sweating.

While I don't recommend it, Levothyroxine(T-4) is the better supplement to take as it will be converted to Triiodothyronine(T-3) by your body as needed. I have always tested thyroid during and post Tren cycles and it has also always returned to normal levels in rapid fashion. There is absolutely no way I'd risk that by adding more volatility to an already delicate balance.

The severity of tren sides are a direct result of your dosage vs body composition. If you're a small guy (like so many new users unfortunately are) taking 350mg a week could be brutal... there's just too few androgen receptors to bind to. If your taking test as well, tren will typically bind with greater affinity leaving excess test in your blood serum for longer than if you were on test alone -- another huge reason for most reported signs.

 

[chipshill]

Thanks for the replies. For extra info, I'm actually on daily T4, not T3, and I'm taking 150mcg per day.