tren acetat test prop for lean gains

[lamged]

hello bro's
finished a test E and d-rol cycle keeped 12lb (this is my 3rd cycle)
now i am planing my next cycle wich i have as goal gaining about 10lb of lean muscle and get that ripped look i am already at 9%bf 150 lb 1m75cm
i was thinking if a (50prop+50tren ED )or (100prop+100tren eod)for 6 week will this cycle do the job???
and if anyone did this cycle i will be happy if i will hear from some experince
thank you

 

[ConanX]

I don't know how tall you are. Make sure you have enough quality muscle before jumping on something strong as tren. If you are going to do tren, I recommend doing ED injections since it will keep the levels more stable.

 

[Makavelli]

As the above stated, shoot tren ace ed and I wouldn't go over 500 mgs/wk total. No reason to go over that. Shoot 50 mgs/day and 100 mgs/day of test. will work wonders.

 

[Ripp42]

As the above stated, shoot tren ace ed and I wouldn't go over 500 mgs/wk total. No reason to go over that. Shoot 50 mgs/day and 100 mgs/day of test. will work wonders.

400-600 of prop ah week
Tren as stated not over 500

I ran tren 120mg x 3 a week 360mg ah week worked wonders no sides.

Wheres your pct?

Dont run nolva with tren or deca.

What about dostinex or prami?

 

[lamged]

thanks for the replys
well here is a pic of my transformationand the last is how i look now
so if i understand 50mgtest prop and 50mg of tre ed for 6 week will be good doses and get result or should I bump a ll bit ?
thank you again

 

[Ripp42]

thanks for the replys
well here is a pic of my transformationand the last is how i look now
so if i understand 50mgtest prop and 50mg of tre ed for 6 week will be good doses and get result or should I bump a ll bit ?
thank you again

If youve never ran prop before run it for two weeks before starting tren. You should always do this! You do not kno how your going to react to prop. Some ppl get serious side from prop like prop flu an prop pain. Google those. I would run my test higher than my tren.

Tren is a very serious compound I'd really advise you to get away from it till you know alot more about aas. It messes with your natty sack bad! An your cortizol levels! A low dose of t3 12.5 ed for six weeks would be good while on tren. But then you nd a t3 pct like t-100 and should get life extentsion. You should run dostinex or prami.

Why dont you look into Prop and masteron maybe add some var or something of that nature. Or prop and winny.

Ps tren has serious sides! If you google prop and tbink thats bad dig deep into to tren. Likewise you could be like me and have none but Ive bn in this game for a long time.

Where is your PCT?

 

[lamged]

thank you for the advice
my pct will be clomid and hcg as useal
i wanted to try tren because i heard and read much about it and understand that is so anabolic and androgen,the prop i will get it's testolic it is painless cause i tried 2 ampules just to see how will i react and they was painless ,
all that I want is 10 lbs and to get from 9%bf to 7% or 8% so that i was thinking of tren and prop stack
well i found ultrabol 200 from OP it sounds great it has 100MGprop and 100mg tren /ML
someone heard about it or used it?
and please I need more advices on planing this cycle
thank you

 

[gymjunkie09]

thank you for the advice
my pct will be clomid and hcg as useal
i wanted to try tren because i heard and read much about it and understand that is so anabolic and androgen,the prop i will get it's testolic it is painless cause i tried 2 ampules just to see how will i react and they was painless ,
all that I want is 10 lbs and to get from 9%bf to 7% or 8% so that i was thinking of tren and prop stack
well i found ultrabol 200 from OP it sounds great it has 100MGprop and 100mg tren /ML
someone heard about it or used it?
and please I need more advices on planing this cycle
thank you

hcg should be ran during cycle 250 i.u.'s 2x/week starting from day 1 with short esters, although I prefer Hcgenerate. Use post cycle/unleashed combo with low dose of clomid (25mg ed) for pct .....if you have any questions regarding these products feel free to email, email address is in sig....good luck

 

[Ripp42]

thank you for the advice
my pct will be clomid and hcg as useal
i wanted to try tren because i heard and read much about it and understand that is so anabolic and androgen,the prop i will get it's testolic it is painless cause i tried 2 ampules just to see how will i react and they was painless ,
all that I want is 10 lbs and to get from 9%bf to 7% or 8% so that i was thinking of tren and prop stack
well i found ultrabol 200 from OP it sounds great it has 100MGprop and 100mg tren /ML
someone heard about it or used it?
and please I need more advices on planing this cycle
thank you

2amp isnt enough time to see how you react. Prop wont kick in for 2-4 wks depending on your body.

Testolic? All prop is the same its a raw powder. Then theres ba bb and you fav magic solution. Maybe they claim painless cause they've added triethelyne ( thats spelled wrong ) or olayte ( cnt spell these but n e way ) prop at 50 per ml should be painless.

You can gain 10 off test if done right. You need to diet if you want to loose body fat. Gaining 10lbs will gv you three lbs of fat.

Imo your all ready at such low body fat that you can do this natural by diet and cardio.

If your going to run it run test higher than tren. Your mg is so low I dnt see a good way to do this. I would do this

1-10 ed 1 1/2ml Prop = 525 ah wk
2-10 ed. 1ml Tren = 350 ah wk
2-10 hcg x 250iu x 2 ah wk e4d
Run dostinex during cyc
1000mg of taurine
1000mg of vitamin c
9000mg of krill or fish oil

5 days later after last inject start pct. Running post cycle, unleashed, and 25mg of clomid for 21 days the other stuff you will run for 4-5 weeks.

Really I think you should do Prop and Var.

I would run the op. Heard of Tren dick? You should run test higher then tren. And tren do t run longer then 6 weeks. When its mixsd together you have no control over that. All though ed pins will get old.

 

[Ripp42]

The tren should be 2-8 not 2-10

 

[Ripp42]

And I meant wouldnt run the op

 

[snorkles]

As the above stated, shoot tren ace ed and I wouldn't go over 500 mgs/wk total. No reason to go over that. Shoot 50 mgs/day and 100 mgs/day of test. will work wonders.

Great advice

 

[lamged]

thank you very much for the inputs
well i guess i will do 75mg/100prop ed week 1-10/8
50 tren ed week 1-8/6
depend on how my gains will be ,and if money will not be an issue then may be switching to var ,
clomid and HCG for pct and some armidex in hand thak you alots guys
if some one run a similar cycle i will be happy to hear how the result was

 

[Gearjunkie]

I have done similar cycle test n tren
750mg of test with 450mg of tren.
Was good stuff.

I'm running a new cycle tren only at 600mg per week. Looking for some solid gains
Can't wait to start.


Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

 

[lamged]

good luck with your cycle gearjunkie
how is the gains coming ?weight gain,strengh?
what about libido issue?

 

[Gearjunkie]

good luck with your cycle gearjunkie
how is the gains coming ?weight gain,strengh?
what about libido issue?

No libido issue.... Never every even in past cycles.....

Bro you can't compare anything to tren....good diet, hard training, good sleep and you would see ya self big in no time.



Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

 

[lamged]

I am really curious to try tren A
I think i will limit my doses at
100 prop For 8week and 75tren EOD for 6weeks
if diet and training are on check ..is that enough to give me result or should I bump the doses?
what do you think?

 

[gymjunkie09]

I am really curious to try tren A
I think i will limit my doses at
100 prop For 8week and 75tren EOD for 6weeks
if diet and training are on check ..is that enough to give me result or should I bump the doses?
what do you think?

that's plenty bro, if you can't' gain off that then you're doing something else wrong

 

[lamged]

great bro
then i will do it that way 100prop and 75 tren eod bouth in the same time
thank you alot for help

 

[Ripp42]

great bro
then i will do it that way 100prop and 75 tren eod bouth in the same time
thank you alot for help

If this is your first cyc I would run Tren 50-60 eod max. With then two week you will see results! If its Aceate.

One of the things you must understand is that Tren is 6x more potent than Test! I have ran alot of compunds before and this is by far the strongest above Deca also.

You can always bump up. Whats the rush? Take it easy on this stuff am serious becarefull.

 

[Ripp42]

You want your test to be a min. Of 100mg over Tren

If it was me I'd run tren 120mg x3 ah week then 400-500 of Prop ah week and watch the magic happen if ur diet is in check and your training/rest is there

 

[Gearjunkie]

You want your test to be a min. Of 100mg over Tren

If it was me I'd run tren 120mg x3 ah week then 400-500 of Prop ah week and watch the magic happen if ur diet is in check and your training/rest is there

Why do you want your test more then tren please explain.??

Beside libido issue which you can cover with min 250mg of test a week ??

I'm on a cycle with 250mg of test and 550mg of tren a week
With best muscle gains.


Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

 

[moya]

Why do you want your test more then tren please explain.??

Beside libido issue which you can cover with min 250mg of test a week ??

I'm on a cycle with 250mg of test and 550mg of tren a week
With best muscle gains.


Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

agreed...
it is a myth that the test must be higher... as long as you have enough test to mimic natural production, or more, most will be fine...

 

[moya]

2amp isnt enough time to see how you react. Prop wont kick in for 2-4 wks depending on your body.

Testolic? All prop is the same its a raw powder. Then theres ba bb and you fav magic solution. Maybe they claim painless cause they've added triethelyne ( thats spelled wrong ) or olayte ( cnt spell these but n e way ) prop at 50 per ml should be painless.

prop kicks in in a few days...

NOT all prop is the same... that is absurd... different pharmacies get different powders in different grades... all pharmacutical grade prop is essentially the same, but then im sure there are several different carrier agents used throughout the industry... UGL's may source their powders from china and there is no way without CMCG testing to verify the exact purity... over the years several sources have had 'bunk' gear come from brewing with 'weak' powders/raws...

from my experience, testolic is good to go...

 

[lamged]

so do you guys agree with the dosage
100 prop eod 8 weeks with 75 tren eod 6 weeks
or should I bump the dose
because i dont want to run doses that gives me few gains,i have never had any side effects from any aas (deca ,susta test E ,drol,d-bol and winny)
(I want lean gains about 10lbs)

 

[lamged]

Bump ,any inputs?

 

[lamged]

bump bump

 

[moya]

that dose looks fine bro...

 

[Gearjunkie]

prop kicks in in a few days...

NOT all prop is the same... that is absurd... different pharmacies get different powders in different grades... all pharmacutical grade prop is essentially the same, but then im sure there are several different carrier agents used throughout the industry... UGL's may source their powders from china and there is no way without CMCG testing to verify the exact purity... over the years several sources have had 'bunk' gear come from brewing with 'weak' powders/raws...

from my experience, testolic is good to go...

Agree
Test is test....all the test are same and they kick in as soon as you inject in your body....

This is a biggest bullshit myth test take 2weeks to kick in.




Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

 

[Ripp42]

prop kicks in in a few days...

NOT all prop is the same... that is absurd... different pharmacies get different powders in different grades... all pharmacutical grade prop is essentially the same, but then im sure there are several different carrier agents used throughout the industry... UGL's may source their powders from china and there is no way without CMCG testing to verify the exact purity... over the years several sources have had 'bunk' gear come from brewing with 'weak' powders/raws...

from my experience, testolic is good to go...

Worded wrong. Kicks in 3-5 days to start seeing results 2-4 weeks

 

[Ripp42]

prop kicks in in a few days...

NOT all prop is the same... that is absurd... different pharmacies get different powders in different grades... all pharmacutical grade prop is essentially the same, but then im sure there are several different carrier agents used throughout the industry... UGL's may source their powders from china and there is no way without CMCG testing to verify the exact purity... over the years several sources have had 'bunk' gear come from brewing with 'weak' powders/raws...

from my experience, testolic is good to go...

Purity is the only difference to my knowledge. Unless the carbon or molecules change.

 

[Ripp42]

Why do you want your test more then tren please explain.??

Beside libido issue which you can cover with min 250mg of test a week ??

I'm on a cycle with 250mg of test and 550mg of tren a week
With best muscle gains.


Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

For libido. If its fine dnt change it. I was on 600mg of test and 5-6wk I felt libido shuting down and I was hcg, 1000mg of Aginmine, 2000mg Citrulline malate.

Everyone is different. I had no sides with Tren others did and major sides.

Tren is 6x more potent then test! It seems just common sense to run higher imo I could be wrong but Tren messes with your natty unlike any other compound and you lh. Do some research on Trenbolone. Im not gonna write a book on this but if it were me this is how I run it.

Tren 6 weeks max
12.5 of t3 a day for 6 weeks
1000mg vit c
1000mg arginine
2000mg Citrulline Malate
Life Extention
T-100 pct for T3 and Tren due to cortizol, tyroid
Dostinex
Grape seed extract after last inject of tren also forskilin
B12
Multi vit
9000mg of omega or krill oil

Ppl run Tren it gos good so no one thinks of any thing bad.

You can paint a car half ass it will last but eventually you'll have to do it agian.

It may not get you now but just might get you in the end like all the NFL players years after there all cripled and shit.

 

[ConanX]

Tren is the strongest sh*t out there. It shredded me up and got me huge in a few short weeks...

 

[Gearjunkie]

For libido. If its fine dnt change it. I was on 600mg of test and 5-6wk I felt libido shuting down and I was hcg, 1000mg of Aginmine, 2000mg Citrulline malate.

Everyone is different. I had no sides with Tren others did and major sides.

Tren is 6x more potent then test! It seems just common sense to run higher imo I could be wrong but Tren messes with your natty unlike any other compound and you lh. Do some research on Trenbolone. Im not gonna write a book on this but if it were me this is how I run it.

Tren 6 weeks max
12.5 of t3 a day for 6 weeks
1000mg vit c
1000mg arginine
2000mg Citrulline Malate
Life Extention
T-100 pct for T3 and Tren due to cortizol, tyroid
Dostinex
Grape seed extract after last inject of tren also forskilin
B12
Multi vit
9000mg of omega or krill oil

Ppl run Tren it gos good so no one thinks of any thing bad.

You can paint a car half ass it will last but eventually you'll have to do it agian.

It may not get you now but just might get you in the end like all the NFL players years after there all cripled and shit.

I Knw ppl who had run tren for 6months straight and still recover...

Tell u what if u were on 600mg of test and it libido was shutting down...lol your test could be under dosed big time.

Mate 600mg of test is fucking heaps for solid gains and libido.

One more thing you might have libido problem cause of high level of
prolactin










Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

 

[lamged]

Tren is the strongest sh*t out there. It shredded me up and got me huge in a few short weeks...

As i understand,you put on some lean gains and u drop some BF right?
can u give us some numbers please? just for info and to have idea,
how much did you gain,and how much BF you drop?

thanks!!

 

[ConanX]

As i understand,you put on some lean gains and u drop some BF right?
can u give us some numbers please? just for info and to have idea,
how much did you gain,and how much BF you drop?

thanks!!

Back in 09 I think I made a log on it, not really sure...

I think I started at 215 kinda on the chunky side, like 12 or 13%bf
Ended at 235 at around 8%bf
body comp completely changed, back broadened, shoulders popped, arms got huge and veins went from nice lines to garden hoses. Maybe Im exagerating a bit but the transformation was enormous. Similiar to taking your 1st cycle. 1st cycle I went from 178 to 205...but with tren I didnt end up bloated, I was lean, dry, and scary looking.
I also used a bit of anavar at the end and some clen mid cycle but I dropped the clen since I realized I could eat big on tren and still lean up.

I really didn't get any bad sides other than what I normally get. Regular acne and oily skin. I had to tan and shower 2x a day to keep it under control. I think my cardio suffered a bit. I was a little more aggressive than I usually am, but it could have also just been because I felt badass with the new size and veiny freak look I had. I took bromocriptine so gyno wasn't an issue. I shot ED, started with 50mg ED. That did my great for 2 weeks. Then my trainer told me to up it to 100mg ED to see how I handled it. I just blew up and got shredded and sides were the same.
good thing about tren ace is if you don't like the stuff whether its the feeling it gives you or anger issues or acne, you can always drop it or cut the dose and its out of your system quick.
if you ask most guys who have used tren they will tell you that after a taste of the stuff you will never want to waste your time or money on anything less. As long as you are not prone to the side effects.

 

[_kt_]

@ Conanx - How long was the cycle?

 

[Ripp42]

I Knw ppl who had run tren for 6months straight and still recover...

Tell u what if u were on 600mg of test and it libido was shutting down...lol your test could be under dosed big time.

Mate 600mg of test is fucking heaps for solid gains and libido.

One more thing you might have libido problem cause of high level of
prolactin










Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

Yea, Ima look in to that. My libido dnt go away I could jus feel wasnt as strong.

 

[Ripp42]

I Knw ppl who had run tren for 6months straight and still recover...

Tell u what if u were on 600mg of test and it libido was shutting down...lol your test could be under dosed big time.

Mate 600mg of test is fucking heaps for solid gains and libido.

One more thing you might have libido problem cause of high level of
prolactin










Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

Think Ill run an ai nex time. Jus never do cause im not gyno prone.

 

[lamged]

Back in 09 I think I made a log on it, not really sure...

I think I started at 215 kinda on the chunky side, like 12 or 13%bf
Ended at 235 at around 8%bf
body comp completely changed, back broadened, shoulders popped, arms got huge and veins went from nice lines to garden hoses. Maybe Im exagerating a bit but the transformation was enormous. Similiar to taking your 1st cycle. 1st cycle I went from 178 to 205...but with tren I didnt end up bloated, I was lean, dry, and scary looking.
I also used a bit of anavar at the end and some clen mid cycle but I dropped the clen since I realized I could eat big on tren and still lean up.

I really didn't get any bad sides other than what I normally get. Regular acne and oily skin. I had to tan and shower 2x a day to keep it under control. I think my cardio suffered a bit. I was a little more aggressive than I usually am, but it could have also just been because I felt badass with the new size and veiny freak look I had. I took bromocriptine so gyno wasn't an issue. I shot ED, started with 50mg ED. That did my great for 2 weeks. Then my trainer told me to up it to 100mg ED to see how I handled it. I just blew up and got shredded and sides were the same.
good thing about tren ace is if you don't like the stuff whether its the feeling it gives you or anger issues or acne, you can always drop it or cut the dose and its out of your system quick.
if you ask most guys who have used tren they will tell you that after a taste of the stuff you will never want to waste your time or money on anything less. As long as you are not prone to the side effects.

thank you for answer bro
that was such an amazing gains,i hope i get near to that on my next cycle,but i am going to do it just light doses
100prop eod and 75tren eod and 50 winny
i guess this will give me at least 10 solid lbs,while my diet ,rest and workout will be on check i was told that the doses are plently
hope so,
when i will start y cycle i will make a new thread,and keep all ya bro's in touch
thank you all for help
Best regards!!

 

[moya]

Purity is the only difference to my knowledge. Unless the carbon or molecules change.

like i said... different labs use different carrier agents... so yes, essentially all prop is the same, but many people have had allergic reactions to certain oils... so 'prop' as a finished product can vary greatly... with an UGL moreso...
prop is really just the ester attached to test so digging even deeper, test is test... if one reacts differently its more likely to be either 1. the injection schedule or 2. the carrier agent used... with that said... taking into consideration he has ran test before, and the fact that prop usually gives a more stable blood level than longer esters, it would be safe to say that the OP can determine if the prop in question is g2g from a couple injects...

 

[Ripp42]

like i said... different labs use different carrier agents... so yes, essentially all prop is the same, but many people have had allergic reactions to certain oils... so 'prop' as a finished product can vary greatly... with an UGL moreso...
prop is really just the ester attached to test so digging even deeper, test is test... if one reacts differently its more likely to be either 1. the injection schedule or 2. the carrier agent used... with that said... taking into consideration he has ran test before, and the fact that prop usually gives a more stable blood level than longer esters, it would be safe to say that the OP can determine if the prop in question is g2g from a couple injects...

Very true! But what about the fact that Prop has more test to the 100 than any other test? 83gram per 100 think cyp is like 72 and enethanate is 69 smthing like that.

So do you think that would make that difference in more gyno prone.

On blood levels more stable no so sure its just a longer or shorter ester right? So keeping you blood level more stable would be on how often you inject right?

 

[moya]

good point, but i think the difference in ester weight is fairly neglegable... at least at the kinds of doses being discussed here...

prop is most commonly suggested at EOD, whereas a lot of people inject cyp or enth only once a week... i think if prop were injected e3d people would have effects more like the longer esters... and i have ran longer esters more frequently, at comparable doses, with less 'long ester' associated sides...

 

[Gearjunkie]

Think Ill run an ai nex time. Jus never do cause im not gyno prone.

Neither never ever


Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS

 

[Ripp42]

Neither never ever


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[Ripp42]

Mr super natural

 

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