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Gorilla-Pharma
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You have to PCT and recover before jumping on tren. I've Done Tren solo and know many that have, but its recommended not to of course and stack some form of Test with it.
JoeBlob
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NO. How spread out were your 3 Test E cycles? It's extremely important to follow "Time on + PCT= Time off". You've got a few months until you should run anything again to get your natural test levels up and running again. You can really fuck yourself up by running cycles back to back, etc. I'm afraid to ask your PCT....?
Give us your stats (age/height/weight/bf%/years training)
Give us your stats (age/height/weight/bf%/years training)
Gorilla-Pharma
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WTF bro, too young....recover and hit the weights naturally. What was your PCT like?
you are gonna fuck yourself up for life running tren at 19.. or running any AAS so young.. your older brother is an asshole, if i had a younger brother i would never fuck him up like that.
why don't you read around the forums of guys who juiced this young and now are in their 20's with <300 T levels.
why don't you read around the forums of guys who juiced this young and now are in their 20's with <300 T levels.
JoeBlob
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Wow man, this thread is going to get closed but dude, please be smart and stop using AAS. ESPECIALLY Tren... 2 of my buddys from High School went onto TRT at 19 years old just from using Pro Hormones without proper PCT. You can ruin the rest of your life by destroying your natural testosterone production at your age. Research PCT and start it ASAP. If you continue there's a damn good chance you won't be able to have kids. Your brother is a dickhead.
Gorilla-Pharma
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Smart decision man. Noone is trying to scare you, but rather help you. Trust me I've Done my fare share of abuse. I am now 31 and can get prescribed Test and HGH for HRT if I so please. Though I have not wanted to yet. It also cost me 40k to have my 2 children and the one in my wives belly now. No more kids I am blessed with 3, as it would be 20k upfront again to do the ivf process. Some maybe was preexisting on my part, some steriods...you just never know and can do what the next guy is because we all react different.
unfortunately after doing 3 test cycles before 19 the damage probably has been done.
those are just the facts man sorry.
your body is going through hormonal changes at that age so adding hormones will definately cause long term problems.
i would get bloods immediately and make your brother pay for it.
i've worked with hundreds of dudes in your shoes and its a bad situation
Ouch!!! What a cost from the get go for your children...understanding we do not put a price on them, but they cost us enough in the long run lol. That right there OP is really something to think about that most don't...what if you meet the girl of your dreams and get married and she wants children and you can't produce? Easy for me as I am 42, have 2 beautiful daughters, and am done having kids so not saying I can be reckless but I am at a point where now I can cruise if I want to, but you are young and have many years ahead to think about. Kind of ironic if you think about it...guys (boys) use AAS to make themselves look better to get women (girls)...not all but I will say most...and screw with their hormones at an early age without being educated or having knowledge as to the good and bad of them, they find that girl and wants to have a family only to find out they can't because of past mistakes not properly using AAS or using way too early in life, and will have to do what GP did and do artificial insemination for thousands of dollars to have children...not all but something to really think about.
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Gorilla-Pharma
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Well 12k was to remove vains from around my nuts in an atempt to get rid of heat and raise sperm count, that part obviously was preexisting and I had no luck in raiseing count after it.....it was 12k wasted. The shit part is my insurance company covered the surgery at first as many men get it for discomfort and problems they encounter later in life. But not a year later they got there money back from the hospital saying they paid it on accident and it wasn't covered. They had found out I was having trouble having children and do not cover anything IVF related.
Sorry to hear bro...insurance companies are the biggest crooks but do come in handy when the time comes, but it all comes with a price. My work pays as part of my salary $2000+ a month for my families medical insurance (covers all 4 of us pretty much 100%...except co-pays) and yes won't cover what you would call elective surgeries like me getting fixed, but would cover my wife's hysterectomy...but shit it is our duty as men to have that surgery since our wives endure the giving birth to our children, it is the right thing to do IMO.
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Ya that's one surgery at least I don't have to get. My sperm count is 10-12k, normal range is 20-40 million per milliliter...so there is never a possibility of a oops. LOL
Lucky you...that is one positive thing from it, your insurance won't cover TRT and HGH will it?
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Gorilla-Pharma
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I have not asked or tried, I should though. You would think many would as you can also have many medical and health issues from too low of test levels. Is it common for them not to?
I am not a doctor, nor do I know...but I would assume it is how the doctor diagnosis it, and like you said what medical conditions it would be contributing too...just my guess. What I hear is they like to give gels and patches before injections...I don't know of anybody getting a 10ml vial of Test from the pharmacy lol, but you get what I am saying...we need test period, and I firmly believe that when our body can't produce it anymore, we need supplement with it...but that would mean that we would live longer and healthier lives and the insurance companies don't want that...but it would actually save them money in the long run???
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A
ALIN
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Always take time off between cycle to let your natural hormone balance recover.
I would NEVER suggest to use TREN solo without some additional testosterone.
Gorilla-Pharma
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Just get Bloods my man, post results or send them to Steve.
