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Tren Ace / Test P - Guidance needed
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Tren is pretty strong for a second cycle but it happens to be a fav of mine, I personally would drop the winny, nothing good ever came from it fo me, var now is a whole nother thing my friend I would start, Prop, Tren A and kill it with the var the last 4-6 weeks, it would be ideal, you don't need so much at the end winny and var together is not necessary at all, watch your liver buddy, it is precious, you'll need it for many more cycles to come.. IMO
For a second cycle that's a lot of prop.
I would keep the winny and drop the anavar.
You should not run the tren on your second cycle. Plus that is way too much tren for your first use.
I would keep the winny and drop the anavar.
You should not run the tren on your second cycle. Plus that is way too much tren for your first use.
My prop intake would equate to 490mgs a week, I initially planned to dose it at 350mgs a week but then I thought that keeping the prop higher than the tren (350mg/week) would work to my advantage and would work better against the progenic effects of tren. I also plan to inject ED as opposed to EOD in order to avoid much fluctuation of the level of compounds used in my blood.
When it comes to orals and liver toxicity, I understand that such substances should not be taken for a prolonged period of time (10 weeks+) and I like the suggestion of starting out the cycle with the var and ending it with the winny. Thoughts?
Is 490mgs/week of prop really a lot? My test intake during my first cycle was around 675mgs/week and 500mgs/week of deca.. Results were awesome and PCT wasn't so bad. Yes it did take a few months to recover but I have myself to blame for not properly planning my intra and post cycle therapy.
I use Liv-52 daily and I also started using kidney health supplements so those should mitigate the risk of causing damage to those organs.
I still have around a month and a half prior to starting the cycle so I'm using this time on hand to properly research and understand my plan and manage my expectations in terms of results..
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Its roughly the same amount of test as your first cycle and that is a lot of test. My first cycle was test and I only ran 300mg per week. But I am an old man so wth. The tren I would not run above 200mg for your first time. I was great at 200mg and better at 300 then got cought up and went to 400 it seriously took me months to get back to normal mentally. My then girlfriend/now wife was really pissed. That shit will make you crazy!!! Truely
.. I do not have any first-hand experience with tren and I'm not trying to say that 350mgs a week is a conservative dose, nevertheless my research led me to believe that it isn't an excessive dose either, but please correct me if im wrong.. I could start out with 350/week and taper than down if I end up noticing any sides that I cannot handle, if that sounds stupid please DO let me know..! the guidance of ppl with first hand experience is the reason why I'm on this forum to begin with..
I ran an almost identical cycle over the summer. I ran prop at 50 mg ED, tren at 50mg ed and var at 50 mg ed for 8 weeks. Best cycle to date for me for size strength and vascularity all in one. I ran 2.5 mg bromo ed and .25 mg adex ed along with 250 IU's per week of HCG. For pct, I ran HCGenerate, Unleashed, 50 mg clomid and tapered the adex off through 3 weeks. Best PCT for me. Reovery was perfect and lost minimal gains all the way up till now. Only issue I had was prolactin/prog rebound after PCT. Make sure if ur prone, u keep this in check. I never had any issues with gyno at all. Tren was a whole nother beast for me. I'm still fighting this gyno that popped up about a week AFTER PCT. Kinda fuked up. Thats my only issue with that cycle, and therefore i will not run tren again. Hope that helps. Best of luck to ya.
