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Trem Enenthate or Hex?

Well Ulter it is Hex(parabolan) either that or I could get the enethate. To me they are the same thing long acting tren. Have been using tren for years.

Does the Hex have anything over the Enenthate, this is powder and they are both the same price.
 
2sick said:
Well Ulter it is Hex(parabolan) either that or I could get the enethate. To me they are the same thing long acting tren. Have been using tren for years.

Does the Hex have anything over the Enenthate, this is powder and they are both the same price.
Para has less sides and you get the same look as tren. If they were the same thing they wouldn't bother making two chemicals.
 
Ulter said:
Para has less sides and you get the same look as tren. If they were the same thing they wouldn't bother making two chemicals.

It is the exact same chemical only a different ester which only controls the release of the chemical, hate to argue with you ulter but thats the way it is.
 
And so you're saying that test prop has the exact same effects as test cyp? Totally false bro and you know it. Also, you were wrong in your very first post, hexahydrobenzylcarbonate, parabolan ester, is LONGER than enth, not shorter. 7 carbons for both, but the hex ester is heavier and releases slower. If price were not an issue, I would choose tren hex b/c I've never run it yet. Tren enth is great stuff though, as is tren ace.... hell all the trenbolones rock :)
 
by Bill Roberts - Parabolan is trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate. The half-life of a steroid ester is mostly dependent on its ratio of fat solubility to water solubility: the longer chain the ester, the higher this ratio, and the longer the half-life. This particular carbonate could be most closely compared with an enanthate ester; the half-life is probably a little less than week.

ooow thats gotta hurt :p

and yes I beleive test prop is the same as test cyp because they are both test just different ester thats it, we could argue for months about this but whats the point
 
umm- that part about esters and test im gonna say this test is test but some esters release faster than others so prop and cyp are both test but one realeases quick and the other takes longer
 
monster2929 said:
umm- that part about esters and test im gonna say this test is test but some esters release faster than others so prop and cyp are both test but one realeases quick and the other takes longer

thats exactly what I was saying, its the same chemical only a different ester which controls the release.

oh and tux you got mail
 
Most closely compared with an enanthate ester... I ALREADY POSTED that exact same thing when I said they were both 7-carbon chains bro! But find a half-life chart, hex has a longer half-life b/c it's a heavier chain. I'm right, and not only did you NOT prove your point, you tried to be the man and prove me wrong and instead, as usual, LOST a battle of wits to a freakin' Penguin :)
 
Tux said:
Most closely compared with an enanthate ester... I ALREADY POSTED that exact same thing when I said they were both 7-carbon chains bro! But find a half-life chart, hex has a longer half-life b/c it's a heavier chain. I'm right, and not only did you NOT prove your point, you tried to be the man and prove me wrong and instead, as usual, LOST a battle of wits to a freakin' Penguin :)

lol :p

no.... enanthate has a longer half life, I know I'm right
 
No fergie, that's like saying NPP and Deca are the same, yield the same results and have the same sides because they are both nandrolone. And that's not true.
The ester IS the difference and for most people the Para has less sides. When you've cycled for 25 years and used both dozens of times you can argue with my experience, but until you've tried both several times don't quote me Bill Roberts. Get an opinion of your own.
 
Ulter said:
No fergie, that's like saying NPP and Deca are the same, yield the same results and have the same sides because they are both nandrolone. And that's not true.
The ester IS the difference and for most people the Para has less sides. When you've cycled for 25 years and used both dozens of times you can argue with my experience, but until you've tried both several times don't quote me Bill Roberts. Get an opinion of your own.

:FRlol:
 
Ulter said:
No fergie, that's like saying NPP and Deca are the same, yield the same results and have the same sides because they are both nandrolone. And that's not true.
The ester IS the difference and for most people the Para has less sides. When you've cycled for 25 years and used both dozens of times you can argue with my experience, but until you've tried both several times don't quote me Bill Roberts. Get an opinion of your own.

who are you to tell me how much juice I've done? You have no clue so dont fuckin assume, I've done both several times and the only diff I notice is that one is faster acting.
 
BOOM, haha Fergie I knew I was right. Read this: It states, unequivocably, that the parabolan ester actually has EIGHT carbons... it's the ring structure that makes people miscount it as 7. So it releases closer to cypionate than enanthate. DAMN that took like an hour to find that shit! Bow to the penguin :D

While quite an array of names exist and make the issue seem complicated, the main difference between different esters is simply the number of carbon atoms in the ester. Propionate, as shown above, has three carbons, whereas acetate has two, isobutyrate has four, enanthate has seven, cypionate has eight, and decanoate has ten. On occasion there are more unusual esters, such as cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (used in Parabolan) which has eight carbons and one more oxygen than the above esters do.
 
You guys all crack me up, why don't you just break out the gloves and go a couple rounds,lol

It's all good guys don't want to create a fight just looking for the facts, don't get so down on each other, if one dosent belive in the others words, then fuck'em it was their opinion, no probs. Now if you actually have factual evidence then that person will be right in terms of that argument...Lets all kiss and make up...:)
 
Exactly, I have several varieties of factual evidence backing up my claim, and Fergie has none. Besides, I like Fergie anyway, even if he IS wrong he's still cool ;)
 
I take it in cyclohexylmethylcarbonate you count the six carbons in the ring, the methyl and carbonate groups for the eight?
 
Tux said:
Exactly, I have several varieties of factual evidence backing up my claim, and Fergie has none. Besides, I like Fergie anyway, even if he IS wrong he's still cool ;)

Well I guess I cant say to much, proven wrong.... no prob I can accept that
 
Tux said:
BOOM, haha Fergie I knew I was right. Read this: It states, unequivocably, that the parabolan ester actually has EIGHT carbons... it's the ring structure that makes people miscount it as 7. So it releases closer to cypionate than enanthate. DAMN that took like an hour to find that shit! Bow to the penguin :D




While quite an array of names exist and make the issue seem complicated, the main difference between different esters is simply the number of carbon atoms in the ester. Propionate, as shown above, has three carbons, whereas acetate has two, isobutyrate has four, enanthate has seven, cypionate has eight, and decanoate has ten. On occasion there are more unusual esters, such as cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (used in Parabolan) which has eight carbons and one more oxygen than the above esters do.

K to you Tux!
 
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