Transdermal's Real or Bunk??

[joeblow12345]

So transdermals are not new, and neither are aas, why all of a sudden can these guys make a transdermal that works? What are they doing that's unique that others can't or have not? I'm just wondering why this is a new trend here, I know it's been tested in years past and there were reason guys never converted from pinning before.

It's some new products that have been brought to the community. It's not some new or unique technology. Right now we don't have overwhelming evidence that proves they do in fact work as good as injectables. People are still testing them to see how they stack up. There are some unflattering blood results that have shown up and we are awaiting more to surface. Some have reported great results while others have not. So there is some inconsistency going on with the quality or user application. I suggest you sit back and await the outcome before you or anyone else pulls the trigger.

 

[joeblow12345]

I just don't like seeing people saying that something can't be a placebo affect that has a physical effect on the body. I'm not sure if people realize how strong a placebo effect is. There are a few studies I have read one in particular where a doctor purposely gave a patient with cancer a vitamin pill and told him it was new technology. They had found the cure for cancer. His cancer went away and into remission. Somehow this story got to the press and they released the story. The patient saw the story and within a week the cancer was back. One month later he died. My point is that only the blood tests will give proof as to the quality of the product. A placebo effect can produce amazing results...and definitely an AAS mentality (aggression, strength, etc)

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I've been lifting long enough to know that a 7 rep increase is no placebo effect. And I agree with you that the only tried and true method to know if its legit is through bloods. We will know soon enough when more bloods surface.

I urge everyone who is on them to go get blood work. It's cheap and you will know for sure.

 

[stevesmi]

I just don't like seeing people saying that something can't be a placebo affect that has a physical effect on the body. I'm not sure if people realize how strong a placebo effect is. There are a few studies I have read one in particular where a doctor purposely gave a patient with cancer a vitamin pill and told him it was new technology. They had found the cure for cancer. His cancer went away and into remission. Somehow this story got to the press and they released the story. The patient saw the story and within a week the cancer was back. One month later he died. My point is that only the blood tests will give proof as to the quality of the product. A placebo effect can produce amazing results...and definitely an AAS mentality (aggression, strength, etc)

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cancer is different than lifting. if i gave a 150 pound high school nerd who never lifted in his life a pill and said this is gonna make you bench 300 would he be able to? no its not realistic.

cancer can be beaten in some cases without anything, the body can fight it and beat it on its own with no help from chemo, surgery, etc. meditation, prayer, etc is amazing vs. being stressed out all the time.. it would create a much better environment. but thats just another subject.

yes i believe in placebo but we are all experienced lifters and a placebo is not gonna make us PR 2 plates by 7 reps.

 

[kravmaga02]

there is some inconsistency going on with the quality or user application.

I have been applying mine to the inside of my thighs and sometimes to the inside of my bicep. Haven't done anything different from what the instructions on their site said.

Got my blood taken this morning so we will be seeing round 2 of blood results here in a couple days.

 

[joeblow12345]

I have been applying mine to the inside of my thighs and sometimes to the inside of my bicep. Haven't done anything different from what the instructions on their site said.

Got my blood taken this morning so we will be seeing round 2 of blood results here in a couple days.

I'm sure you were doing it right bro. The bloods will tell for sure and we will know.

 

[kravmaga02]

ya. Hopefully all will be good, if not I'll talk with the guy and figure something out.

 

[jimroid31]

I was able to get 90% of my money back via paypal. Just filed a claim and put item not as described. Was refunded that day. Only reason I even did that was because he took sime money for an order and then stopped emailing me back. Really thought these transdermals had some promise.

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[st3760]

I received my first order but having same issue with second order. They got my money but will not email me back now. I may have to do the same and file a claim on PayPal. Don't want to but may have to.

 

[jeremyng25]

cancer is different than lifting. if i gave a 150 pound high school nerd who never lifted in his life a pill and said this is gonna make you bench 300 would he be able to? no its not realistic.

cancer can be beaten in some cases without anything, the body can fight it and beat it on its own with no help from chemo, surgery, etc. meditation, prayer, etc is amazing vs. being stressed out all the time.. it would create a much better environment. but thats just another subject.

yes i believe in placebo but we are all experienced lifters and a placebo is not gonna make us PR 2 plates by 7 reps.

I agree with you on this

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