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Training Routine while on versus off...

bunkka

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I could probably as easily say while bulking versus cutting.

I've been doing a 5x5 routine over the course of my cycle.

I do like to mix things up regularly in my training and I'm wondering at what point would you (if at all) begin "up-ing" the reps - likely to the 8-10 range.

I'm going to begin cutting, starting tomorrow. While the Test and EQ is still running through my veins, especially this first week off, definitely want to continue with the low reps-high weight, though.

Any suggestions on post-cycle (and/or cutting) routines?
 
I train heavy all year round. Heavy on basics, and 10-15 reps on the shapers, all the time. I've never believed in training(lifting) to get cut. You're either geneticly cut or you are not. Diet gets you more or less cut if you have said genetics. Given these genetics, going heavy will just make the muscles thicker & stronger--yet still cut(diet). Going with a higher rep range will probably(if that's all you are doing) just decrease in the thickness of the muscle.
 
I would not try and cut right after a cycle. You need to try and hold onto the new muscle first. Stick with heavy basic (good form) movements to keep the muscle you have. Try using some clen or eca (thermorexin?) and yohimburn on stubborn areas.

Eat clean and take some glucorell (r-ala) with meal containing at least moderate amounts of carbs. Trust me on this one, you don't want to start "cutting" right after a cycle. Keep training as hard and heavy as possible within the limits of 1-1.5 hours/day 5 days a week as possible. If you do this and have the right diet/supps you will look cut and big.
 
Thanks, guys!

I'm definitely going to continue going heavy. No doubt.

I think I might incorporate Punk's idea about the higher reps on the "shapers". During cycle, I've gone heavy on what I'd consider "shapers", too.

I think I'll stick with the 5x5 on the major groups (chest, back, quads) and for maybe run something like 4x10 on the shoulders, bis, tris, traps?

Jubie, will definitely be incorporating clen and Xenadrine post-cycle, as well as r-ALA, which I'm using now.

I'd really like to get in more cardio though, to get more of this muscle defined. Thus, the clen, I guess.

Trying to get in 4 days of AM Cardio on an empty stomach w/ something like 40mcg Clen, sound reasonable? This, in addition to the later lifting sessions?
 
i agree with using clen post cycle only because of its ani-catabolic traits. But i see no point in taking xenadrine.

jubie is correct you gotta mantain that "new" muscle. or else you cycle will be pointless. Just eat clean, maintain, then hit a cutting clcy
 
Cardio isn't neccessary to any great extent. If you are working out hard enough in the gym you shouldn't need to do much cardio. Maybe 20 min 2-3 times a week max. Diet and training intensity (supps to a lesser extent) will determine bf. Personally I would suggest utilizing all 3 rep ranges for maximum size and muscle density. For me this means:

1. Low reps: 4 - 6 reps
2. Medium reps: 7-9 reps
3. High reps: 10-12 reps

Also I find that drop sets work well especially if you workout alone.
 
When I'm off I workout one muscle group once every 6-7 days. Sets about 10-12 for bigger musclegroups, about 9-10 for smaller.
When "ON" I hit small muscle groups 2 per week, as for biceps once after backworkout 3 sets, then again 3-4days later with 10-15sets. Same with triceps. Chest I do on mondays, then again 1 movement like flyes after shoulders 4 days later. BAck I do once per week, then again 4 days later with biceps(start with chins). Seems to work great
 
Atomic Punk said:
I train heavy all year round. Heavy on basics, and 10-15 reps on the shapers, all the time. I've never believed in training(lifting) to get cut. You're either geneticly cut or you are not.

wrong
 
Well, I don't think you lift to get cut. I lift to get bigger muscles. I eat to get cut. Genetics however should not be the determining factor in the equation.
 
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