dunno, but Hugh Panero promised profitability by the end of this year on revenues of about $890 million. I've been running numbers and I can't figure it out either, but I don't have all the information. One analyst at JP Morgan published an analysis predicting $1.4 billion of FCF by 2010, lol. Apparently once they get to a certain point, each extra million subscribers = $100 million of FCF annually. Supposedly most of their costs are fixed and they just need to cover those before the gravy train starts.