Toremifene (Fareston)

[Lancer55]

I did a google search for it and read "Toremifene is the #1 perferred SERM, followed by Nolvadex, followed by Clomid" from here The Ultimate Testosterone Recovery Stack from Primordial Performance | Bodybuilding News EliteFitness.com but I havn't found any threads of people who have used it recently, does it have some bad sides or some other reasons? Thanks.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Find some studies on it bro, there are a million, and each says there own thing...
This one states "In a combined phase I-II study, the hormonal effects of toremifene (TOR) were investigated in 30 patients. Half of the patients received continuous therapy of TOR 60 mg and half 300 mg of TOR orally daily. Torem will actually supress your test levels.. as a result of an increase in your Sex-Hormone Bind Globulin.... Last thing you want to do is supress your test levels when in fact your trying to restore your naty hpta.... Torem is very potent... But Torem is very Anti Estrogenic... "
Influence of toremifene on the endocrine regula... [Eur J Cancer. 1994] - PubMed - NCBI

This one suggest that you should use Toremfine, as for the exact opposite... It states that " Toremifene administration resulted in a significant increase in FSH, testosterone, SHBG, and inhibin B levels, as well as in sperm concentration, percentage motility and normal sperm forms. Toremifene (60 mg daily) was administered to all men for 3 months. At baseline and at the end of each month, serum concentrations of follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, inhibin B, and sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) were measured. At baseline and at the end, semen analysis was performed and sperm concentration, spermatozoal motility and normal sperm forms were determined. "
The beneficial effects of toremifene administr... [Fertil Steril. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI

Id say get your own blood work done and find out what works best for you. I personally use clomid and it works like a charm... Hopefully this give you some help.. There are studies that say Torem does not restore your naty HPTA, Test levels, Sperm Count, SHBG...

The other problem is that the drug is a newer SERM... The market has not hit for it yet... Modern medicine, and people are afraid of change... Try to tell and old school gym rat that nolva is a thing of the past and them and there buddies laugh at you, meanwhile, there the ones prescribed HRT and on TRT for life... lol, I laugh...

I would stick to Clomid or Torem for sure, and make sure you dont tons of research about whichever one you do decide on... There are 2 other serms available as well... 5 That i know of... Sure there are more.. Make sure you keep the mg low as the visions ides will plague you bro... Good luck and do some homework, i only wanted to post 2 to show, could have posted 1000....
Johnny

 

[dylangemelli]

I did a google search for it and read "Toremifene is the #1 perferred SERM, followed by Nolvadex, followed by Clomid" from here The Ultimate Testosterone Recovery Stack from Primordial Performance | Bodybuilding News EliteFitness.com but I havn't found any threads of people who have used it recently, does it have some bad sides or some other reasons? Thanks.

i am one that believes torem is the best serm... for me, it is absolutely awesome... now, there are times where you should use clomid instead but for the most part, i will always go with torem... I recovered so well using it...

 

[Lancer55]

Thanks for the info Johnnyboy, and Dylan K to you both. You said there are times where you should use clomid over Torem when would you Dylan?