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tookie williams...did he juice?

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that motha was SWOLE like a mofo as he was being escorted out by cops. :Perk: what do you guys think?
 
actually no im not.

lol. ok first of all, yes he was juicing, he like bbing, and he was involved in illegal activity, so it wouldnt be hard for him to get his hands on some gear. secondly, he was a gangster, he got into a lot of fights and intimitation is half of the battle in fights, so gear would help this. thirdly and most importantly, why does it matter? im not trying to be an ass or anything like that bro, but whats the point of this thread? and i mean as far as your question goes, its obvious to anyone that knows anything about steroids that he was on, the guy was huge on the shittiest diet ever, while probably drinking alchohol and maybe doing other drugs. the guys was a gangster, he didnt spend his days preparing his meals and counting his protein.
 
LT3 said:
lol. ok first of all, yes he was juicing, he like bbing, and he was involved in illegal activity, so it wouldnt be hard for him to get his hands on some gear. secondly, he was a gangster, he got into a lot of fights and intimitation is half of the battle in fights, so gear would help this. thirdly and most importantly, why does it matter? im not trying to be an ass or anything like that bro, but whats the point of this thread? and i mean as far as your question goes, its obvious to anyone that knows anything about steroids that he was on, the guy was huge on the shittiest diet ever, while probably drinking alchohol and maybe doing other drugs. the guys was a gangster, he didnt spend his days preparing his meals and counting his protein.


i was waiting for a response like this LOL bro :evil: ......to the guy he is talking to (that posted the question) dont get all bent out of shape LT3 is a good bro and sometimes comes off like he's blowing off (trust me i know lol) but that is just how he conveys his point and he isnt disrespecting you...again i learned this first hand after we talked via PM after trading posts.....karma to both
 
LT3 said:
lol. ok first of all, yes he was juicing, he like bbing, and he was involved in illegal activity, so it wouldnt be hard for him to get his hands on some gear. secondly, he was a gangster, he got into a lot of fights and intimitation is half of the battle in fights, so gear would help this. thirdly and most importantly, why does it matter? im not trying to be an ass or anything like that bro, but whats the point of this thread? and i mean as far as your question goes, its obvious to anyone that knows anything about steroids that he was on, the guy was huge on the shittiest diet ever, while probably drinking alchohol and maybe doing other drugs. the guys was a gangster, he didnt spend his days preparing his meals and counting his protein.

And the key point you made is "He was a gangster."
Shows there is some justice in this world.
 
lol sorry i wasnt more specific...

but yea

1.shitty diet
2. shitty wieght room
3. why the fuck he's so big :)
 
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Who the fuck cares!!! That motherfucker killed four people I don't give a fuck, I had a good friend murdered and the motherfucker was never caught. So this guy renounced killing, give me a break...I am glad he's dead and hope he is burning in hell right now. Let's hear from the family members who he killed, not the supporters of this murdering motherfucking cocksucker, BURN IN HELL!!!

This is my opionion, everyone has one.
 
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to boops again.

Thanx for the post bro.

And the key point you made is "He was a gangster."
Shows there is some justice in this world.

Well, yes and no bro. Yes he was a gangster, but is there no such thing as rehabilitation? Personally i just started reading on the whole thing when bigcracker mentioned it, so i dont know if he truly was rehabilitated and was sorry for his past or if he just put on an act and hoped to appeal on the public's emotions. so ye he was a gangster, there's no denying that, but who knows if he truly changed or not. the sense that i get from this whole thing is that it was too politically driven and it became about Arnold making an example out of him while pleasing other figures. but since i dont know much at all about this whole case, i dont really feel comfortable taking a side.
 
Who the fuck cares!!! That motherfucker killed four people I don't give a fuck, I had a good friend murdered and the motherfucker was never caught. So this guy renounced killing, give me a break...I am glad he's dead and hope he is burning in hell right now. Let's hear from the family members who he killed, not the supporters of this murdering motherfucking cocksucker, BURN IN HELL!!!

This is my opionion, everyone has one.

I have a feeling this is gonna go to C&C pretty soon.
But bro something like murder is never as simple as killer (bad evil) and victim (good innocent). yes a lot of times, even tookies case, it is perp and victim. but rehabilitation is possible bro and im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. i had a few friends killed myself, coming from a third-world country, but i try not to let my emotions take part of my judgement when it comes to these situations.
 
LT3 said:
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to boops again.

Thanx for the post bro.



Well, yes and no bro. Yes he was a gangster, but is there no such thing as rehabilitation? Personally i just started reading on the whole thing when bigcracker mentioned it, so i dont know if he truly was rehabilitated and was sorry for his past or if he just put on an act and hoped to appeal on the public's emotions. so ye he was a gangster, there's no denying that, but who knows if he truly changed or not. the sense that i get from this whole thing is that it was too politically driven and it became about Arnold making an example out of him while pleasing other figures. but since i dont know much at all about this whole case, i dont really feel comfortable taking a side.



Yeah, he killed 4 Asian people in a brutal brutal manner.... Like any Human, he probably regreted it after he got caught, but what does that mean? He doesn't deserve to die? I don't think that is right either.... He killed 4 in a brutal manner, yet he gets killed by lethal injection, which is very peaceful, and painless..... I don't see the justice there, and I didn't think he should have been spared.... I work in a hospital ER and ICU, and I see everyday normal people die from natural diseases, and they suffer more then this guy did, I'm just not comfortable with that..... Not saying we should burn him, or kill him in a barbaric manner, but spare him? No Fucking Way.... Just my opinion.....

rizz
 
Not only did Tookie kill innocent people but he was also the co-founder for the notorious gang the Crips. There is no telling how many murders he influenced others to commit or even the murders that he may have gotten away with.

I could care less if he wrote popular anti-gang childrens books. He negatively influenced many more people than he positively influenced.

I do not agree with the death sentence a 100%. They were worried about him giving orders to the Crips from jail. They should have taken some of his privileges away and recorded his meetings with visitors and inspected his mail.

This is just my opinion.......
 
he may have been the one who started the ganags but even if he didnt someone else would have done and when he started the gangs it was actually to prvent crime in his community.

look i think he he should have been executed he was a murderer he got caught for 4, and when i say caught he could have don e more but that is specuallating. at the end of the day the man is a crinimal i am storng an dfirm beliver in the death penalty and think that we should have it in the uk and a murderer got what was coming to him.

but who the hell is arnold schwarcneger to decide if someone should pay the ultimate price i think that is more of joke.

and as too whether he took juice or not who cares!!!
 
LT3 said:
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to boops again.

Thanx for the post bro.



Well, yes and no bro. Yes he was a gangster, but is there no such thing as rehabilitation? Personally i just started reading on the whole thing when bigcracker mentioned it, so i dont know if he truly was rehabilitated and was sorry for his past or if he just put on an act and hoped to appeal on the public's emotions. so ye he was a gangster, there's no denying that, but who knows if he truly changed or not. the sense that i get from this whole thing is that it was too politically driven and it became about Arnold making an example out of him while pleasing other figures. but since i dont know much at all about this whole case, i dont really feel comfortable taking a side.

Problem is that even though hes been writing childrens books and saying killing is bad he would not appologize for killing the four asians. So In my opinion fuck em. But thats just mine.
 
igottadoit said:
Problem is that even though hes been writing childrens books and saying killing is bad he would not appologize for killing the four asians. So In my opinion fuck em. But thats just mine.


dude was in jail over 20 years, HOW WOULD HE GET JUICE??
 
I think he was all genetics as far juicing in Jail. Maybe Guards hooked him up if you have the right connections(which he had) I'm sure he could get some as how they also get dope and coke and shit like that in Jail.
 
Actually bro, it is not painless at all, i forget they actual process, but there are like three different injections that shut different things off in your body, the brain being last, not sure exactly what it is, but i am pretty srue the lungs first, which means at the point he is suffocating, not very much fun.

Prizz said:
Yeah, he killed 4 Asian people in a brutal brutal manner.... Like any Human, he probably regreted it after he got caught, but what does that mean? He doesn't deserve to die? I don't think that is right either.... He killed 4 in a brutal manner, yet he gets killed by lethal injection, which is very peaceful, and painless..... I don't see the justice there, and I didn't think he should have been spared.... I work in a hospital ER and ICU, and I see everyday normal people die from natural diseases, and they suffer more then this guy did, I'm just not comfortable with that..... Not saying we should burn him, or kill him in a barbaric manner, but spare him? No Fucking Way.... Just my opinion.....

rizz
 
What is done is done. Nothing can change that. Only his god may pass judgement on him.

My opinion - fuck him
 
Everyone is happy this guy is dead and that he deserved it. There alot of grey area in this case as to whether he deff commited the crimes. The witnesses were supposedly rats who by snitching, bettered their own positions in the criminal system. So it is conceivable that one would lie to better their own position. I agree that if he committed the murders that he is accused of then he deff deserves to die, but my understanding is that the evidence was not 100% clear. Also, I want to know why this case recieved so much media attention. People are executed every day and it barely makes the news.
 
muscelove said:
Everyone is happy this guy is dead and that he deserved it. There alot of grey area in this case as to whether he deff commited the crimes. The witnesses were supposedly rats who by snitching, bettered their own positions in the criminal system. So it is conceivable that one would lie to better their own position. I agree that if he committed the murders that he is accused of then he deff deserves to die, but my understanding is that the evidence was not 100% clear. Also, I want to know why this case recieved so much media attention. People are executed every day and it barely makes the news.
b/c he started the Crips man, he should be sentenced to death just because of that..the guy bragged about killing, showed 0 remorse and should have been "put to death" by my 45 years ago
 
Dieselgoku23 said:
I think he was all genetics as far juicing in Jail. Maybe Guards hooked him up if you have the right connections(which he had) I'm sure he could get some as how they also get dope and coke and shit like that in Jail.

yeah well what about meals? they never eat in jail. u gotta eat 500 times a day to get huge. they eat slop 3 times a day.
 
Tookie was one big mutha. The guy started the fuckin crips, of course he had access to any drug he wanted, including juice. The high ups in gangs are the modern day mafia dons, they've got enormous power and clout. The guys running the crips, bloods, latin kings, gangster disciples, el rukens, vice lords...they've got some major sway. I've read stories about Larry Hoover, the founder of the Gangster Disciples in Chicago, when he was still in Cook County Jail in Chicago (late 80's, early 90's). The guy was living like a king in there...guards would sneak in hookers, drugs, booze. If I remember correctly he even had a few guards that would beat the living shit out of other inmates if he instructed them to. Hoover still ran the g.d's out of his jail cell until they cracked down on Cook County and he got sent to a federal pen. Cook County Jail used to be notoriously corrupt until they started cracking down.
 
muscelove said:
Also, I want to know why this case recieved so much media attention. People are executed every day and it barely makes the news.

I think part of it is the fact that he wrote award winning children books. Also, Jamiee Foxx did some T.V. show that had something to deal with Tookie. Snoop Dogg had Tookie's back (IMO it wasSnoop's way of trying to show everyone that he is still a hard gangsta -> even though he is a pansy now compared to what he was back in the day).

Jessee Jackson was in the middle of it (not sure why) - there has to be a lot of media hype if he is present.
 
ryan04 said:
Tookie was one big mutha. The guy started the fuckin crips, of course he had access to any drug he wanted, including juice. The high ups in gangs are the modern day mafia dons, they've got enormous power and clout. The guys running the crips, bloods, latin kings, gangster disciples, el rukens, vice lords...they've got some major sway. I've read stories about Larry Hoover, the founder of the Gangster Disciples in Chicago, when he was still in Cook County Jail in Chicago (late 80's, early 90's). The guy was living like a king in there...guards would sneak in hookers, drugs, booze. If I remember correctly he even had a few guards that would beat the living shit out of other inmates if he instructed them to. Hoover still ran the g.d's out of his jail cell until they cracked down on Cook County and he got sent to a federal pen. Cook County Jail used to be notoriously corrupt until they started cracking down.

i love though how all these guys that start major gangs and go to prison for years awaiting parol or execution always find "redemption" in jesus. haha tookie started the biggest most spread-out gang in America and now hes claiming redemption. its just funny. junebug. avacado. pink bookbag. astronaut.
 
its still all genetics, i know black dudes and 1 white duded :p that come into the gym around 6pm and work hard labo jobs and say man i'm hungry i haven't eaten since lunch at that was only a blah blah blah, then they go lift like they eat every two hours with helacious intensity...genetics
 
I think personally it was genetics. There are just some luck mofos out there who are naturally huge (definitely not me). I dont want to start a racial thing, but black people are generally bigger and a more muscular. Other races as well, like Look at samoans and tongans for example, those fools are HUGE and I know the whole island of tonga and samoa doesnt juice. Norweigans are pretty damn big too. Again im not trying to put anyone down, im actually envious of there genetics.
 
I think personally it was genetics. There are just some luck mofos out there who are naturally huge (definitely not me). I dont want to start a racial thing, but black people are generally bigger and a more muscular. Other races as well, like Look at samoans and tongans for example, those fools are HUGE and I know the whole island of tonga and samoa doesnt juice. Norweigans are pretty damn big too. Again im not trying to put anyone down, im actually envious of there genetics.

Im gonna have to dissagree with u there. personally i dont believe in "race" as a biological thing, to me race is simply a social construction. there is no way we can deny that some nations have bigger people but thats far from "race". climate, tradition, social and cultural values, sport preference, food...the list goes on, but these are more reason than "race". as i said, i do not believe in "race" as a natural occuring thing, i believe that it is so much more complicated than "race" and we cannot simply say "their genes are better" since we have no prof that anyones genes are superior at certain aspects or not.
 
LT3 said:
Im gonna have to dissagree with u there. personally i dont believe in "race" as a biological thing, to me race is simply a social construction. there is no way we can deny that some nations have bigger people but thats far from "race". climate, tradition, social and cultural values, sport preference, food...the list goes on, but these are more reason than "race". as i said, i do not believe in "race" as a natural occuring thing, i believe that it is so much more complicated than "race" and we cannot simply say "their genes are better" since we have no prof that anyones genes are superior at certain aspects or not.
LT3 have you seen an NBA game in past 30 years? NFL? MLB? pattern...
 
LT3 said:
Im gonna have to dissagree with u there. personally i dont believe in "race" as a biological thing, to me race is simply a social construction. there is no way we can deny that some nations have bigger people but thats far from "race". climate, tradition, social and cultural values, sport preference, food...the list goes on, but these are more reason than "race". as i said, i do not believe in "race" as a natural occuring thing, i believe that it is so much more complicated than "race" and we cannot simply say "their genes are better" since we have no prof that anyones genes are superior at certain aspects or not.

i agree that the idea of race is a social construction, but in a biological perspective, there are some races that because of they way their culture has had to survive they may be more adapted to strenuous physical activity. for example, black people. kitten. pink balloon. junebug. peanut butter.
 
LT3 have you seen an NBA game in past 30 years? NFL? MLB? pattern...

Precisely, we all, including black people, are socially constructed to think that black people are good at sports. notice how black kids are always pushed toward learning how to play sports and music or some form of entertainment. this is exactly what i mean by social construction. by the same way that we say, "Hmmm there are a loooot of black people in sport and entertainent, thus they must be genetically predisposed to be good at these things", we are suggesting the following "Hmmm there are barely any black people in politics and scientists and people involved in education, thus they are genetically predisposed to be bad at it". the problem is not "race" its the connotation that we put to a certain race. we often associate the old black stereotypes to todays celebrities and thus perpetuate the idea of "race" being a natural accuring thing. for example we often associate the "Sambo" figure with todays stars, i mean just look at Shaq, he's the epitomy of the "Sambo". Also we perpetuate the "Buck" figure. need i say more about it, just look at all rappers, for god sakes we have young buck. the same goes for black females too, we have the idea of the "Jazabele", but i wont go into this. Bottom line is we have always been made to believe that black people are good entertainers and thats it. they dont have a high place in business, in education, in science, in math, just entertainment. so by saying "have you seen...NBA? NFL? MLB?", we are saying "look thats all black people can do, since thats all we see them do and we dont see them doing business, education, science, math. As a closer i will say this, how often do you see a black kid being encouraged to be a scientist or a proffesor as opposed to a basketball player or a rapper? and bro i dont want to pass of as a dick by throwing you a cheap shot, but if you choose to ignore all of the latter arguements, then i'll simply ask you this: Where is your evidence that black people (or any kind of "race" for that matter) is any different genetically than other "races"?
 
i agree that the idea of race is a social construction, but in a biological perspective, there are some races that because of they way their culture has had to survive they may be more adapted to strenuous physical activity. for example, black people. kitten. pink balloon. junebug. peanut butter.

Well yes they could adapt to it, but not enough to change their genetic make up, it takes extreme isolation and a long long time for the genes to change.
 
LT3 said:
Well yes they could adapt to it, but not enough to change their genetic make up, it takes extreme isolation and a long long time for the genes to change.

the only reason i bring it up is because there is emerging scientific evidence that the reasons that asian people have an extra flap where there eyelids are is because of protection from windstorms that were common in asia throughout the ages and have become an adaption of protection, just like how land creatures have spawned legs to move around for example. shit i need to quit eating so much orange juice.
 
the only reason i bring it up is because there is emerging scientific evidence that the reasons that asian people have an extra flap where there eyelids are is because of protection from windstorms that were common in asia throughout the ages and have become an adaption of protection, just like how land creatures have spawned legs to move around for example. shit i need to quit eating so much orange juice.

I agree, but you must look at it this way: asian people have been in asia as far back as you can imagine, thousands of years, something like that satisfies the criteria that i mentioned above: isolation (meaning they all lived there and never moved around) and long long time. so that can and does happen, but black people have been under these conditions since slavery, thats about 500 yrs, thats not very significant in changing genes.
 
LT3 said:
I agree, but you must look at it this way: asian people have been in asia as far back as you can imagine, thousands of years, something like that satisfies the criteria that i mentioned above: isolation (meaning they all lived there and never moved around) and long long time. so that can and does happen, but black people have been under these conditions since slavery, thats about 500 yrs, thats not very significant in changing genes.


You make alot of sense bro, but my theory of African Americans being generally bigger goes back to the beginning of slavery. They didnt come here and evolve into being big and strong, they already came here big and strong. When slave traders brought slaves from Africa, they brought over the biggest strongest and healthiest looking people. So the Africans that were brought over, were already genetically gifted in terms of size and strength. The gene pool of the Africans here in America was that of bigger, stronger people. I think its a touchy subject but it really does explain why African Americans are generally bigger.
 
Islandkurry said:
You make alot of sense bro, but my theory of African Americans being generally bigger goes back to the beginning of slavery. They didnt come here and evolve into being big and strong, they already came here big and strong. When slave traders brought slaves from Africa, they brought over the biggest strongest and healthiest looking people. So the Africans that were brought over, were already genetically gifted in terms of size and strength. The gene pool of the Africans here in America was that of bigger, stronger people. I think its a touchy subject but it really does explain why African Americans are generally bigger.

Don't forge they have a larger number of fast twitch muscle fibers.
 
LT3 said:
Im gonna have to dissagree with u there. personally i dont believe in "race" as a biological thing, to me race is simply a social construction. there is no way we can deny that some nations have bigger people but thats far from "race". climate, tradition, social and cultural values, sport preference, food...the list goes on, but these are more reason than "race". as i said, i do not believe in "race" as a natural occuring thing, i believe that it is so much more complicated than "race" and we cannot simply say "their genes are better" since we have no prof that anyones genes are superior at certain aspects or not.

Culture, tradition, social and cultural values were big factors in an individuals race. Not so much anymore because the world has become such a small place that different races mix into different cultures. But before modern times, different races of people were very much isolated and that is how they evolved. It can be argued that civilizations that were more advanced then others, created tools which made their lives easier. Meaning less manual labor, which meant they were not as strong physically as other civilizations who were not as advanced and had to do more physical labor.
Obviously there are physical attributes from different races that were caused by evolution. Black peoples hair for example, in the heat of Africa they couldnt have thick hair because its too hot. I read somewhere about Europeans having blond hair, and that it was actually due to a lack of sunlight. Asian people and there eyes is another example of evolution, protection from the wind. So, why cant size also be a product of evolution in different races?
 
IMO The guy was convicted by a jury of his 12 peers and had 20 years of appeals. So unless you were on that jury and appeal panel I don't think you could have any clue as to whether he was wrongly convicted. I think he got off easy with lethal injection and don't give a shit if he was appointed the Pope since then. I like what the middle east does, an eye for an eye. He should have been executed the same way he executed those four victims.
 
You make alot of sense bro, but my theory of African Americans being generally bigger goes back to the beginning of slavery. They didnt come here and evolve into being big and strong, they already came here big and strong. When slave traders brought slaves from Africa, they brought over the biggest strongest and healthiest looking people. So the Africans that were brought over, were already genetically gifted in terms of size and strength. The gene pool of the Africans here in America was that of bigger, stronger people. I think its a touchy subject but it really does explain why African Americans are generally bigger.

Well not necesarilly bro, i mean i know what you mean, but you gotta understand that all of the slaves that were brought over from africa, went through the middle passage and i dont care how big and strong you are, you will not get out of the middle passage well and fine. plus the only reason the europeans took so many african slaves is coz the african rulers wanted other shit from the europeans in return, it was a trade. any ways not to get off topic here. basically all im saying is i think that we are pushed to think of black people as big strong people who are humble and entertain us---the Sambo figure. like i said before look at shaq. perfect example of a sambo. if you notice there are a lot of whites that are big too, and blacks that are small, fat, whatever else.

And please guys can we take out words like genetically gifted coz that automatically presents the idea that there is such a thing as genetic/and eventually racial superiority. and this is simply not the case.

Don't forge they have a larger number of fast twitch muscle fibers.

and bro, can you prove this?
 
debo0211 said:
dude was in jail over 20 years, HOW WOULD HE GET JUICE??

are you kidding me? they can get all kinda rec drug. why not gear? and even though he was eating jail food, when you are that big you take take someone else's food and they wouldn't do shit. what i don't get is why the hell someone is on death row for 20+ years. they are sentenced to die. kill the muther fuckers.
 
LT3 said:
I agree, but you must look at it this way: asian people have been in asia as far back as you can imagine, thousands of years, something like that satisfies the criteria that i mentioned above: isolation (meaning they all lived there and never moved around) and long long time. so that can and does happen, but black people have been under these conditions since slavery, thats about 500 yrs, thats not very significant in changing genes.

haha dude there were black people before slavery...

The reason "black people" are generally larger than others is pretty close to what you guys were touching on in the evolutionary process. Not all blacks are huge.. the ones that tend to be large are the west Africans (Nigeria and surrounding area) and the east Africans (Kenya and surrounding area) tend to be much smaller but amazing stamina and speed. It all dates back to the dawn of homosapiens, which im sure you know originated in Africa. Basically they've had many more years of hunting and gathering than most other "races", and their bodies have had time to evolve just that tiny bit more to suit their surroundings. In another 100,000 years if humans are still around, you'd see the exact reverse of this, as everyone starts getting smaller due to lack of hunting necessity.
 
Culture, tradition, social and cultural values were big factors in an individuals race. Not so much anymore because the world has become such a small place that different races mix into different cultures. But before modern times, different races of people were very much isolated and that is how they evolved. It can be argued that civilizations that were more advanced then others, created tools which made their lives easier. Meaning less manual labor, which meant they were not as strong physically as other civilizations who were not as advanced and had to do more physical labor.
Obviously there are physical attributes from different races that were caused by evolution. Black peoples hair for example, in the heat of Africa they couldnt have thick hair because its too hot. I read somewhere about Europeans having blond hair, and that it was actually due to a lack of sunlight. Asian people and there eyes is another example of evolution, protection from the wind. So, why cant size also be a product of evolution in different races?

Simple bro, because by saying that black people are bigger, we are saying that they couldnt come up with technology like other races to make their workload easier and limit manual labour. and this is simply not the case.
 
Know whats funny, that we have threads about some of the dumbest sh#t in the world and thats ok. Like "i just beat some dudes ass" or "I got my GF BJing"..but its the cool thing to be the first one to call someone out for starting a thread like this. As I have stated before, BS if this question didnt cross your mind, and if not then maybe you should go to the mens health website. (not implying anyone or all use juice on here, but I would think most are into bodybuilding?..and when see a dude that is jacked or in Tookie place BLOATED, the thought would cross your mind) JMO
 
It is known that blacks generally have longer achilles tendons and more fast twitch fibers in their calves making them faster and better jumpers compared to other races. It doesn't mean there any better at sports or have more skills but the majority are faster and better leapers which helps them be the majority in team sports.
 
it's just a proven fact that black men and women have genetics over other races. how many asian NBA players are there (I can think of one), MLB (handfull) players, NFL (i can't name 1!) players are there? I guarantee the answer to their success isn't steroids to any of those sports! Its a black thang. Dookie williams may have juiced while he was rolling in his six trey rag top in the early 70's and stuck a needle in his ass and popped 5mg dbol eod...but the guy's been on the row fo eva and he's been writing kids books :worried:
 
Ive seen old pics he was no where near that size when he first went to jail.
 
LT3 said:
Simple bro, because by saying that black people are bigger, we are saying that they couldnt come up with technology like other races to make their workload easier and limit manual labour. and this is simply not the case.


Im not trying to be racist or anything, but isnt that generally true. African civilizations were less advanced then their European and Asian counterparts. Im sure African culture was vibrant and rich in other things besides material possessions but if we are judging them in western terms, they were not very advanced. Personally I think They lived the way humans should live, taking what they needed from the land and leaving the rest. Unlike Europeans that just destroy everything in sight. But still, their lifestyle had them in better physical shape then most other civilizations.
 
I heard he was on the gong show once doing a BB routine. I would've liked to have seen that.

You can see pics of his victims on ogrish.com
 
I doubt he did. some black dudes just got really good genes. I have a friend from high school who was always the biggest dude in the school by far. I mean this kid was 17 , 6'2 240+. He was scared to take fuckin met-rx let alone juice, he never went to a real gym either . he had a set of adjustable dumbells, 1 barbell with a couple hundred lbs of weights and a pull-up bar. thats all he needed to be jacked to the bone.
 
deltron2000 said:
lol sorry i wasnt more specific...

but yea

1.shitty diet
2. shitty wieght room
3. why the fuck he's so big :)


2.You don't need a state of the art weight room
3.You can get steroids in prison
 
samoans. big mofo's due to inbreeding. Nice. Now there is how ones race can play a part in it.

A limited breeding pool is not a good thing..... unless you take the retards out of it like tookie.

Whiskey
 
Deterass said:
2.You don't need a state of the art weight room
3.You can get steroids in prison



you can..but it aint easy. I asked a friend from the gym that very question. He was locked up for a few years for drugs and he had alot of connects. He said the guards are usually the ones who smuggle shit in and they are more concerned with the high profit drugs , noone is gonna smuggle in syringes and amps/bottles so it would have to be dbol or anadrol and there aint no money in that shit on the inside he told me. so its very scarce.
 
it's just a proven fact that black men and women have genetics over other races. how many asian NBA players are there (I can think of one), MLB (handfull) players, NFL (i can't name 1!) players are there? I guarantee the answer to their success isn't steroids to any of those sports! Its a black thang. Dookie williams may have juiced while he was rolling in his six trey rag top in the early 70's and stuck a needle in his ass and popped 5mg dbol eod...but the guy's been on the row fo eva and he's been writing kids books

Proven? where is the study? where is the scientific evidence? its a stereotype.

haha dude there were black people before slavery...

The only reason i made my point around diasporic africans is because thats what a previous post was arguing. that the hardships of slavery made them that way.

The reason "black people" are generally larger than others is pretty close to what you guys were touching on in the evolutionary process. Not all blacks are huge.. the ones that tend to be large are the west Africans (Nigeria and surrounding area) and the east Africans (Kenya and surrounding area) tend to be much smaller but amazing stamina and speed. It all dates back to the dawn of homosapiens, which im sure you know originated in Africa. Basically they've had many more years of hunting and gathering than most other "races", and their bodies have had time to evolve just that tiny bit more to suit their surroundings. In another 100,000 years if humans are still around, you'd see the exact reverse of this, as everyone starts getting smaller due to lack of hunting necessity.

and here im not really disagreing with you, like i said tradition has a lot to do with our bodies. i mean if a white group or asian group lived in the same conditions as an african group for the same time then they too would be the same way, fast strong, whatever else. so its not the race, its the traditions, the environment, etc.

Can we all agree that some races are bigger than others im talking frame and bone structure. I started a thread a few months ago about which races GENERALLY have better genetics and put on more muscle etc. I think that blacks have them best in terms of muscularity and bulk. And no I HAVE NO PROOF.

Bro you're not getting it. No we cant "all agree that some races are bigger than others" because WE HAVE NO PROOF. how can we agree on something like that if we have no proof to back it up? plus by doing so, we are assuming that there are things such as different races.

It is known that blacks generally have longer achilles tendons and more fast twitch fibers in their calves making them faster and better jumpers compared to other races. It doesn't mean there any better at sports or have more skills but the majority are faster and better leapers which helps them be the majority in team sports.

How is it known bro? what? by stereotypes? thats what known means. please show me some studies that prove this. there are none. and if there are some, then they were done from a biased organization, that wanted to keep the idea of black people are entertainers and thats it and white people are intelectuals.
 
Im not trying to be racist or anything, but isnt that generally true. African civilizations were less advanced then their European and Asian counterparts. Im sure African culture was vibrant and rich in other things besides material possessions but if we are judging them in western terms, they were not very advanced. Personally I think They lived the way humans should live, taking what they needed from the land and leaving the rest. Unlike Europeans that just destroy everything in sight. But still, their lifestyle had them in better physical shape then most other civilizations.

No bro thats not "generally" true at all. thats the idea you get from a western educator. what you said is the image that europeans created for the africans to prove their inferiority during slavery, and sadly still today. but all of the above is noooooot true. europeans wanted to make africans seem simple people that didnt care about money or anything coz they were humble. this is really not the case at all.
 
LT3 ...its like this bro. THe slave traders took the biggest and strongest men and women from Africa and brought them here. They weeded out the week and sick . So those slave trading pricks basically created a super-race of pissed off/ muscular/ american black people.
 
LT3 ...its like this bro. THe slave traders took the biggest and strongest men and women from Africa and brought them here. They weeded out the week and sick . So those slave trading pricks basically created a super-race of pissed off/ muscular/ american black people.

lol. no, bro, they didnt. thats not what happened. do you think they cared what they brought over? noooo. this is how slave trade worked in all its basicness: the europeans, unable to use indigenous people for work anymore, were looking for workers. at first they said, lets use low lifes from europe, and european prisoners. so they did but then, the european low lifes and prisoners could leave when they wanted to, they werent forced to work there, so they all left, coz it sucked. so the europeans said "lets check out the scene in africa. they went there and said to the rulers "we'll give you this this and that for workers" the africans said "how about some of those guns you got there?" and the europeans, who had an abundance of guns and powder, said "kool". so basically what happend, the african rulers got their own slaves and gave them to the europeans, when they ran out of slaves they would use the guns to capture the other "tribes" people and trade them to the europeans for more guns. and when they brought them over to the west, they were skinny, sick and near death. i dont care how big you were, you could have brought coleman and he still would have almost died in those conditions. bro the slave ships where constructed like sardine cans, the slaves all lay on their sides and they packed them one after the other, you couldnt get up, or even sit up, you couldnt take a dump or pee, or eat. you just lay there. needless to say, by the time they got there, most of the slaves were dead. and the ones that survived where frail, weak, malnourished, and close to death. they were not "a super-race of pissed off/ muscular/ american black people". thats what the western education system has you believe, when in fact it was not like that at all. and bros i dont want to sound like a dick or anything, but i am a history minor, and this semester i am studying african diaspora in the americas and forms of resistance. so i think i know what im talking about.
 
How is it known bro? what?by stereotypes? thats what known means. please show me some studies that prove this. there are none. and if there are some, then they were done from a biased organization, that wanted to keep the idea of black people are entertainers and thats it and white people are intelectuals.[/QUOTE]

I played football and basketball my whole life so I noticed this shit but anyway look at black peoples achilles tendons and then look at other races, its that simple. Not all but a majority have longer achilles tendons when compared to other races, it doesn't mean nobody from other races have long achilles tendons, plenty do but no where near the amount of blacks with long achilles tendons. Do your own visual inspection over the next couple of weeks.
 
I haven't looked for studies but growing up it was common knowledge between my black and white friends that most blacks had longer achilles tendons and more fast twitch fibers in their calves
 
well bro that doesnt mean anything, unless, you show me a biopsy of a good number of black athletes and a good amount of white athletes and show me a significant difference between their fiber ratio then ill believe you. also the athletes must be as close to each other as possible. same sport, height, weight, etc. otherwise it means nothing.
 
Lol @ the slave posts.

They didn't weed out the weak and sick slaves before they brought them to the States. What they did do was breed the bigger black males to big females so the plantation hands would be bigger and stronger.
 
Lol @ the slave posts.

They didn't weed out the weak and sick slaves before they brought them to the States. What they did do was breed the bigger black males to big females so the plantation hands would be bigger and stronger.

well not really, these were dumbass rednecks, they didnt think "hmmm lets make this big guy and big woman breed so we can have a big baby". that wasnt the case at all, they just let them do what ever but as soon as the mother was pregnant they would take the father to another plantation. but believe me no one wanted to make super strong and big slaves, if they needed more hands they got more slaves.
 
LT3 said:
well not really, these were dumbass rednecks, they didnt think "hmmm lets make this big guy and big woman breed so we can have a big baby". that wasnt the case at all, they just let them do what ever but as soon as the mother was pregnant they would take the father to another plantation. but believe me no one wanted to make super strong and big slaves, if they needed more hands they got more slaves.


Your wrong. Thats exactly what they did. They breed the big black dude with the big black woman. I've read this several times.

Jimmy the Greek was fired because of a comment like this.
 
Your wrong. Thats exactly what they did. They breed the big black dude with the big black woman. I've read this several times.

Jimmy the Greek was fired because of a comment like this.

lol, yep thats it, im wrong. just for ure sake though, who wrote what you read.
 
Of course he did. He even got the ultimate stack on dec. 13. 3 different juice. Can't get any better....
 
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Deterass said:
Lol @ the slave posts.

They didn't weed out the weak and sick slaves before they brought them to the States. What they did do was breed the bigger black males to big females so the plantation hands would be bigger and stronger.
The weak and sick slaves died on the boat rides over here bro.
 
nowhere in this article does it say that they bred big african males and big african females. But it does prove my point:

they just let them do what ever but as soon as the mother was pregnant they would take the father to another plantation.

letting them breed with each other until another circle of color appears as you desire. What this means is this; Put the n-words and the horse in a breeding pot, mix some assess and some good white blood and what do you get? You got a multiplicity of colors of ass backward, unusual n-words, running, tied to a backward ass long headed mules, the one productive of itself, the other sterile.

We breed two n-word males with two n-word females. Then we take the n-word male away from them and keep them moving and working.
 
Deterass said:
I'm sure some did but that wasn't my point.
well my point is that although some may have specifically "bred" the strongest with the strongest... the whole process of bringing them over here resulted in an unnatural selection of sorts.
 
LT3 said:
nowhere in this article does it say that they bred big african males and big african females. But it does prove my point:

Can you read?



THE NEGRO MARRIAGE

We breed two nigger males with two nigger females. Then, we take the nigger male away from them and keep them moving and working. Say one nigger female bears a nigger female and the other bears a nigger male; both nigger females—being without influence of the nigger male image, frozen with a independent psychology—will raise their offspring into reverse positions. The one with the female offspring will teach her to be like herself, independent and negotiable (we negotiate with her, through her, by her, negotiates her at will). The one with the nigger male offspring, she being frozen subconscious fear for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong; in other words, body over mind. Now, in a few years when these two offsprings become fertile for early reproduction, we will mate and breed them and continue the cycle. That is good, sound and long range comprehensive planning.
 
lol what a fag, he bombed me. any ways, what he was refering to was mate a big slave with a big woman, you took that out of context. what he was saying is make them mentally dependant but still make them work physically.
 
LT3 said:
what he was saying is make them mentally dependant but still make them work physically.

No shit.....he said to make them physically stonger and "in a few years when these two offsprings become fertile for early reproduction, we will mate and breed them and continue the cycle"
 
I found this in another article........



Michael Jordan himself gave this as an explaination for why black athletes dominate professional sports such as basketball. He took it as fact, he believed that it was a terrible wrong in history, but that you could trace back the strong physical characteristics present among many black athletes of the modern day, to the period when BLACK SLAVES WERE CHOSEN FOR THEIR BEST PHYSICAL QUALITIES, AND FORCE-BRED IN ORDER TO PRODUCE MORE FAVOURABLE OFFSPRING FOR THE SLAVE TRADE.
 
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