Too much for one cycle?

[Needtobebigben]

Hi guys long time reader, first time poster.

I'm 21, 6'0, 220lbs and about 13%

I've trained hard and smartly from the age of 15, following strength compound orientated programmes.

I'm now studying sports science at university and am a fully qualified personal trainer for a great gym chain.

Jan 1st 195lbs and 16% i first touched steroids with a tbol 30 day cycle and loved it!

I then cut with some clen. (just telling you guys what i've used before.)

I then did a 7 week cycle;
Weeks 1-7; test-e 250. 1ml x 1/wk
Weeks 2-7; onerip (tren ace, test p, mast)
Saw some anger sides nothing crazy, just new to me.
Saw great gains with this.

I then followed a pct revolving around toremefine.
Got my balls back after a week and was fine.

I'm now on my second big cycle;
Days 1-40; 5x10mg DBol/day
Weeks 1-14; 0.7ml tri-test 400 2x a week
Weeks 1-14; deca 0.7ml 2x a week

A friend of mine told me to stay away from deca, i have some nolva and strong anti-e's at hand.
I'm 4 weeks in, feel ok but starting to feel a bit of gyno. I think i've always had fat lumps behind my nipple.
I'm eating well snd training hard. My aim is to bulk. Then maybe chuck var in a week or two after dbol's finished till week 14.

I'm not sure if i've missed important information, but i'd really appreciate any advice. As i've heard so many conflicting views i'm very confused!

Thanks

Ben

 

[mr.enthate]

Deca and nolva is a No No man don't have time to go into right now but but what ever you do don't mix the two , to be honest toss the nolva it's garbag pick up some letro for gyno if anything run it at .5 ad greater the dosage by .5 every day untill you hit 2.5 mgs stay on that till lump goes away then taper down slowly by .5 everyday untill it's done then throw in a low dose of armidex for 2 weeks to control estrogen rebound and pick up some unleashed/ post cycle and forms stazonal from N2BM wih a lose dose of clomid for pct (25-12.5 mg)

 

[mr.enthate]

I forgot lol get some prami or caber for Decca sides !! Hope this helps

 

[dylangemelli]

I was going to say, you need to watch prolactin as well... bro, seriously... you have to ditch the nolva asap... that is like rule #1 with deca... no nolva.... deca is one that i just don't have much interest in because it doesn't have any qualities i would ever use, but you are running it for a pretty damn long time man... i think your risking quite a bit of sides on this cycle... just my opinion but you asked if its too much for one cycle and im definitely saying, yes, its too much....

 

[rustilldown]

I was going to say, you need to watch prolactin as well... bro, seriously... you have to ditch the nolva asap... that is like rule #1 with deca... no nolva.... deca is one that i just don't have much interest in because it doesn't have any qualities i would ever use, but you are running it for a pretty damn long time man... i think your risking quite a bit of sides on this cycle... just my opinion but you asked if its too much for one cycle and im definitely saying, yes, its too much....

Especially at 21. Buy some caber or prami to help along with letro. Use this to control your gyno!


Ride it like you stole it!!

 

[training700]

How old where you when started cycling?

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[Needtobebigben]

I was 20 when i started.

Can i stop deca and take something else?

 

[dylangemelli]

i missed the fact that your 21... wtf are you doing man? your way too young to be doing any of this... your going to really hurt yourself, especially running something like deca at your age... you need to stop completely and not be messing with any of this at all! you have no idea what your doing to yourself...

 

[Needtobebigben]

Ok guys i appreciate all of your advice.

I've obviously been massively misled through others. Is there ways i can use steroids healthily at my age, or at least with minimal sides.

If i drop the deca as of yesterday?...

 

[training700]

Ya I would drop it. I would keep cycles short like 6-8 weeks even and use test prop for now as well as have a good pct setup and give plenty of time between cycles.

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[stevesmi]

these tri blends are the worst thing you can take as a newb.

take 1 compound only as a newb. then next time try something else. then on your 3rd or 4th you can worry about stacking multiple compounds.

i find it hard to believe your nuts came back after 1 week as you said about, maybe they plumped up but your HPTA was not functioning properly after just a week. test E takes 6 weeks to get to low enough levels. meaning after your last injection you still have it in your system after 6 weeks.. so after 1 week you would have ample amounts left. you need to do more homework and understand about half lives, and read on what pct is for and what it does and why you don't mix nolva with tren or deca.

you can start by reading the sticky's above and surf the threads on here.

 

[Keith1]

Bro keep it simple

500mg test enth for 10 to 14 weeks
You will have great gains

 

[blue_steel74]

Well, no need for my input here, as it would be redundant