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Mrpumped

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Could heating up my test e by placing my vial in hot water, do anything to get rid of some of the pain from injection.
 
What kind of test E is it.

I have some Test E that I cooked at 220 for 30 minutes with a 18g needle in it,

worked liked majic.
 
solidspine said:
What kind of test E is it.

I have some Test E that I cooked at 220 for 30 minutes with a 18g needle in it,

worked liked majic.


Thanks for the info solidspine. Could heating it up the way I mentioned work? If not, and baking it is better, than how should I go about doing that?
 
solidspine said:
What kind of test E is it.

I have some Test E that I cooked at 220 for 30 minutes with a 18g needle in it,

worked liked majic.
to expound upon this. He put the needle in to vent the bottle so it won't blow up...that sucks when that happens. Do not let the needle touch the oil as it will syphion out of the bottle due to increased internal pressure...get it? Yes it will help.....I wish these guys would stop with so much BA and cut with a combo BA/BB. I converted my curreent test and its awsome. so thin and painless. And I know its clean...I made it!

Quad
 
Quadsweep said:
to expound upon this. He put the needle in to vent the bottle so it won't blow up...that sucks when that happens. Do not let the needle touch the oil as it will syphion out of the bottle due to increased internal pressure...get it? Yes it will help.....I wish these guys would stop with so much BA and cut with a combo BA/BB. I converted my curreent test and its awsome. so thin and painless. And I know its clean...I made it!

Quad

Yeah, I dont understand why so many of these labs use such a high BA content. Maybe its because they are afraid that the solution isnt sterile, so hence the higher BA to help in that?
The BA/BB combo helps a lot. EO is also great there to use as a carrier.
 
Mrpumped said:
Could heating up my test e by placing my vial in hot water, do anything to get rid of some of the pain from injection.

Put your oil in a sterile vial and bake it...search my posts for baking instructions.
 
solidspine said:
What kind of test E is it.

I have some Test E that I cooked at 220 for 30 minutes with a 18g needle in it,

worked liked majic.
I can't tell you how many "experts" there are that will tell you this doesn't work. Anthony Roberts is one of them.

If you vent the vial (18 gauge) and heat it, you'll evaporate off some of the alcohol.
 
linux said:
I proved this method doesnt work awhile back. I wish once and for all we could put this to rest

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=496857

well that is some good info on heating to reduce the BA. I am wondering if anyone can argue the fact that baking does indeed lessen pain, but through different reasoning than taking out BA? Is it possible to reduce pain through heating that isn't related to BA content? I haven't tried it so I personally do not know the answer to that. It might be possible that pain is lessened through other reasons, but who knows? maybe its just a coincidence that the pain is less?
 
Quadsweep said:
Well...I have had gear that funkin killed me I cooked it as said above and presto...It quit hurting and getting red. I do not give a shit why as long as it works!

Quad

Yeah that Golden Triangle prop hurt me like a mofo. I tried baking it and it did help some, not as much swelling or pain. Did not totally relieve it, but helped.
 
Ulter said:
No, you didn't prove it doesn't work. Because people have been doing it for the last 6 years on this board and it does work. You think all these guys over the years are making it up?

I proved that the baking method doenst remove BA. I didnt say anthing about heating reducing pain. Baking Gear deosnt remove BA. That cant be argued.
 
Then you're going to have to explain what causes the pain. Because according to what you're posting it's not the BA. Since the pharms use 1/10th of the BA that the UG's use and that's the only difference between the two I would like to know what makes the gear less painful. Nothing else makes sense. But I'm open to your suggestions.
 
I have no idea my friend.....The experiment proves BA cant be "driven" out of a sample using that method. The vapor pressure of BA is to high to evaporate it out unless you use some unrealistically high temp, or pour your gear out onto a place and allow surface evaporation to take place. I suspect that after a couple bad shots the guys get used to the gear and its just coincidense they heated it after a shot or two. I think we all have taken something that crippled us, then shot after shot it got better.



Ulter said:
Then you're going to have to explain what causes the pain. Because according to what you're posting it's not the BA. Since the pharms use 1/10th of the BA that the UG's use and that's the only difference between the two I would like to know what makes the gear less painful. Nothing else makes sense. But I'm open to your suggestions.
 
Well no actually. The first time I saw baking was 6 years ago when T400 came out. The only way you could possibly tolerate it was to bake it. The only reason it was so painful, when all the other steroids in Mexico were not, was because they raised the BA content to keep the steroid from precipitating. That's why it's widely accepted that the BA is either neutralized somehow or it simply isn't there any more.
I don't care how long you used T400 for it was going to cripple you if you shot it.
 
T400 is painful because its a 400mg per shot. I just made t400 with Enan and cyp at 200mg each. It has 2% BA and 20%BB. I just about died with that shot, and its not the BA. I cut it now with EQ and its much better. Now maybe i should try backing it with the top on and see if that helps, maybe backing it has some magical effect. You can argue this until your blue in the face but backing gear deosnt remove BA. I conduct much more imvolove experiments on polymers on a daily basis. Weight loss on heating is about as basic as it gets. The boiling point of BA is 204 centrigrade or about 400 F. You need to get to that miniumum temperature before the vapor pressure of the BA can overcome atmospheric pressure and begin to push out of the bottle. This process as i said before can be great sped up by exposing more surface area of the gear. Then the evaporative process takes over. But theres no way that any appreciable amount of BA is going to be baked off in an oven under 400F with a needle in the top. Eliminate the impossble, what ever is left, no matter how improbably must be the truth.




Ulter said:
Well no actually. The first time I saw baking was 6 years ago when T400 came out. The only way you could possibly tolerate it was to bake it. The only reason it was so painful, when all the other steroids in Mexico were not, was because they raised the BA content to keep the steroid from precipitating. That's why it's widely accepted that the BA is either neutralized somehow or it simply isn't there any more.
I don't care how long you used T400 for it was going to cripple you if you shot it.
 
linux said:
T400 is painful because its a 400mg per shot. I just made t400 with Enan and cyp at 200mg each. It has 2% BA and 20%BB. I just about died with that shot, and its not the BA. I cut it now with EQ and its much better. Now maybe i should try backing it with the top on and see if that helps, maybe backing it has some magical effect. You can argue this until your blue in the face but backing gear deosnt remove BA. I conduct much more imvolove experiments on polymers on a daily basis. Weight loss on heating is about as basic as it gets. The boiling point of BA is 204 centrigrade or about 400 F. You need to get to that miniumum temperature before the vapor pressure of the BA can overcome atmospheric pressure and begin to push out of the bottle. This process as i said before can be great sped up by exposing more surface area of the gear. Then the evaporative process takes over. But theres no way that any appreciable amount of BA is going to be baked off in an oven under 400F with a needle in the top. Eliminate the impossble, what ever is left, no matter how improbably must be the truth.

Another thing I am think too, is that if you actually did evaporate out a great amount of BA then the test or whatever is the solute would precipitate out. When I baked my prop I didnt have that problem, dont think Ive heard it yet. I do know from experience though, that baking it does help with the pain somehow.
 
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