To all the experienced, how does this cycle sound?

[Spunky]

This is a cheap cycle, I'm just wanting to lose some bodyfat, but I need some advice.... this is the cycle I planned out but I can substitute a couple of things depending on what you think is best..

Winstrol EQ
1 100mg/day 400mg
2 100mg/day 400mg
3 100mg/day 400mg
4 100mg/day 400mg
5 100mg/day 400mg
6 100mg/day 400mg
7 100mg/day 400mg
8 ---------------- 400mg
CLOMID THERAPY

The reason I cut the winstrol out at week 7 is because thats the week I'll run out..... this cycle should get me harder and more vascular, but heres the alternative...

Winstrol Fina
1 100mg/day 75mg/EOD
2 100mg/day 75mg/eod
3 100mg/day 75mg/eod
4 100mg/day 75mg/eod
5 100mg/day 75mg/eod
6 100mg/day 75mg/eod
7 100mg/day

I cut the fina off at week 6 cuz I know its pretty harsh on the system.. and once again i'll run out of winstrol at week 7. This cycle should help me trim a good amount of fat.... which would you guys recommend?? by the way, funds are very fuckin low right now, VERY... so its either one of these cycles.. at the most i might be able to throw in a low dose of anavar but thats it...

thanks

 

[supertraps]

If you choose the first cycle, start clomid 3 weeks after your last eq shot. I would run the eq wks 1-8, and the winny wks 3-10 b/c of the half life. If there is no test in this cycle, it won't produce the gains your looking for IMO

I think the winny/fina is better for strength and vascularity. MAny have had great results w/ this cycle. I'll be doing mine soon. I think you will be happier w/ this cycle. Run the fina wks 2-7 so you can start clomid right after you finish the fina. Many people crash hard after fina and its good to start clomid immediately. Good luck

 

[Zyglamail]

I cut the fina off at week 6 cuz I know its pretty harsh on the system.. and once again i'll run out of winstrol at week 7

Winny is a hell of a lot harder on your system than the tren, especially at 100mg/ed. Personally I would use the eq and tren

 

[Busta]

HOw about fina winny and eq

Run the winny at 50/ed fina 75/ed and eq 400/wk

 

[da big thinker]

Winny is a hell of a lot harder on your system than the tren, especially at 100mg/ed. Personally I would use the eq and tren

i agree...tren and EQ will get you alot harder and prominent vascularity is a bonus.---fyi---along w/ cardio and a diet rich in protein,moderate carbs and moderate fats,you are guaranteed to lose about +/- 3% bf and add some quality muscle as well.GOOD LUCK.

 

[Zyglamail]

Im on tren/test/eq right now and loving every minute of it. I would run eq for 8 weeks, frontloading the first 2 weeks at double intended dose. I would start the tren at week 3 and run it two weeks past the end of the eq (if you want 8 weeks of tren) or start it week 5 and run it to week 10. Then you can jump on clomid 4-5 days after last tren inj and get the boys back.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Zyg's theory is right on with the Fina/EQ. Fina should overlap it. I'd personally hit the EQ for 10 weeks, but that's just me.

I wouldn't suggest Winny either. I lose fat on both EQ and Fina... so to combine them would be great. That will be my cycle after my fina/anavar/test cycle coming up.

 

[Zyglamail]

I'd personally hit the EQ for 10 weeks, but that's just me.

Yeah, its definatly personal choice. If I wasnt frontloading 10 weeks on the eq would be a must. With a frontload, the long esters kick in after a couple weeks which means you can get decent results from the 8 weeks.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Front load is a must. I don't get results from EQ until week 6 without it.

I'd still run it for 10 though... even with the frontload.

As you stated, it's personal preference... and also more expensive... in the original post he did mention the word "cheap".

 

[pgerardone]

You need to wait about 2-3 weeks after the last eq shot to start the clomid. Start the eq two weeks before the winny. That way you can start the clomid right after stopping the winny.

 

[Busta]

Zyg no problems with gyno taking fina without winny?

 

[da big thinker]

Zyg no problems with gyno taking fina without winny?

no probs here...

 

[guards]

I would drop your winny dose, 100 mg/day for 7 weeks is really going to do a number on your liver. Why not do 50 mg ed for the duration of the cycle????


I would personnally go with option number one once you have refined that little point.

Hope this helps

 

[Spunky]

im gonna be using the 50mg winny tabs.. so if you recommend 50mg ed, should i take half a tab in the morning and half a tab afternoon?

 

[guards]

I try and take the whole tab about 3 hours before i workout. Worked best for me, many varied opinions on when to take the pill though.

 

[Spunky]

is 100mg a day that bad?? even if u are taking liver protectors? I really don't wanna be too conservative on this cycle... i've been conservative one too many times on cycles and gotten half ass gains.

 

[Busta]

You will get more results from the fina than the winny

 

[guards]

is 100mg a day that bad?? even if u are taking liver protectors? I really don't wanna be too conservative on this cycle... i've been conservative one too many times on cycles and gotten half ass gains.

A 100 mg/ed for 7-8 weeks is REALLY harsh. There are some that might debate this with me BUT they will realise the risks that are associated with such a dose. What liver protectors do you have on hand??? Probably some homeopathic one's that may or may not have been proven to work. I think it is in your best interest to lower that dose........it is YOUR liver.


Good luck

 

[Ulter]

I agree with Spunky.

Use the tren/winny you have in the 2nd cycle but add test and use 75mg/ED NOT EOD. You are wasting your time and money trying to cut for that short of time with Eq at 400mg/wk, even if you do use 100mg/day of winny. If you do the eq and front load keep it to 150mg/day max.
So to make a long story short, too late ulter, do...


Week----test------tren---winny
01-08---400mg--75mgED--100mgED

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