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Peyote Killa

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If you are not a competetive bodybuilder why do you feel the need to use steroids?

I don't understand this notion, I do however understand that they help kickstart a gaining program, but the continual use of the drug just makes no sense.

I mean, they do nothing but lower natural test levels anyway, right? Then why would anyone who is into keeping their body in tip top shape want to use a recreational drug? Also they lower your gains in the long run.

Flame me if you would like, but I mean no harm, and I have not been rude to anyone, but I just want some insight as to why anyone would use steroids.
 
DEAR GOD NOT AGAIN!!!!

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LOL!

1. Big pretty people get paid more. Just how society is.

2. Im a user not an abuser and they have helped my health.

3. Did not lower my test at all.

4. How do they hurt your gains in the long run? Ive been off for four months now and am bigger and in better shape than ive been in my entire life after 1 cycle.

5. I feel as long as you dont get carried away and always use the rule of thumb time on time off they can be healthy.
 
Peyote Killa said:
If you are not a competetive bodybuilder why do you feel the need to use steroids?
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Bro, this is not a flame...

I hear/read this kind of reasoning a lot. But tell me- why do some become pro bodybuilders? Why do some become Olympic athletes?

Why?

For personal fulfillment, a sense of accomplishment, glory... Just because they get paid or are in the magazines, it does not make what they are doing any more noble. So if someone doesn't need all that to get off- they just want to wear a gorilla suit and be able to lift really heavy stuff for shits and giggles, how is that any less important, and how is the use of AAS any less justified?
 
why do women get tit jobs...
why do people ge nose jobs...
why do men get hair plugs...
why do women wear makeup..
why do people left weights at all..
why do people ask stupid questions..
 
KA-BAR said:


5. I feel as long as you dont get carried away and always use the rule of thumb time on time off they can be healthy.
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I think this makes sense. I haven't used them and probably won't ever use them, but I'm not against anyone using them. They are really like anything, if done rationally and in moderation I think they can be good. However when they are abused is when you run into problems. If you look at the pro ranks I think steriod use is absurd. It isn't so much about training and diet, although they are important, as it is about how many steroids you can pump into your body. Then there are the freaks like Greg Valentino that boggle your mind. Unfortunately the abusers get the headlines, and steroids get unfairly associated with them.
 
I flood my body with all types of drugs in an attempt to cloud my reasoning while shortening my life span.

I use rec drugs in an attempt to sedate myself and not be overwhelmed by ignorance and ignorant people..

I use aas mostly to look good and be stronger and increase aggression when I need it... This serves a dual purpose, I first will try to sleep with your wife/girlfriend when you piss me off to humiliate you and if that doesnt work I will stomp a muddhole in your ass.

I also REALLY enjoy sticking needles into my delts and bis for site injections..

Drugs are good, drugs are great..... I'm fucking your girl while you masturbate.
 
Also, Not all people have who use aas want to compete. Many do it for personal satisfaction.

You have to use drugs that are a WHOLE LOT WORSE for you then aas to compete successfully on ANY LEVEL above LOCAL level.


IE..... DNP, INSULIN, T-3...... Those things are far worse then aas.. they just dont get the pub from mainstream media.
 
I am not against the use of them, I think to each his own. I was just wondering why some of you use them.

Like what is everybodies personal reason, I don't care if the reason is to get laid more, and I'm sure somebody somewhere has used them to do that.

But they do lower natural test levels, to whoever said that they don't. They do! sorry.

I'm not tring to have a flame fest, just wondering what the reasons where, considering I have never done them or wanted to, I wanted to know what sparked the use of them in others.
 
really it is a self satisfaction thing. You never know until you try them.
 
Peyote,
You might get better more educated responses in the Anabolic forum. Go ahead a post there and delete this one if you would like.

Most educated bodybuilders use steroids to get them past there genetic limit. Steroids take you a step above what some people can't do naturally.

As far as lower test levels permanently, that is total BS. Your test levels are only low when on a cycle and several months after. I know of several guys that have been on for years then gotten off for several months and their test levels went back to normal.
 
WODIN said:
DEAR GOD NOT AGAIN!!!!

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Ditto.


Let's turn the question, why do you feel the need to flood yourself with supplements -- none of them FDA regulated, not many of them track-tested to know what ultimate side-effects are? Do you think because something is legal that it is OK for your health? Do you think that manufacturers tell you everything about supplements? Canthanaxanthin can cause cysts on eyes, prohormones can give you gyno, overdosing on ephedrine can kill you -- but are these things readily available to most? No. Supplement manufacturers limit their liability by limiting the amount of information they provide. At least drugs have tons of research by federally regulated entities that is easily accessible and strict manufacturing and content tolerances (of course there are exceptions, but we are talking generally). If supplements were drugs, they'd be considered bootleg and dirty.

As far as them lessening ultimate performance over the long haul, you have got your facts wrong. Science has valididated the use of hormones, especially as men and women get older. Why do you think testosterone therapy and hormone replacement are on a drastic rise? Because it works, and works well to improve the quality of life, including but not limited to, physical appearance.
 
Sometimes I shoot sterile oil just for fun...

I also shot 5cc of air one time in my vein to see what would happen.. It knocked the wind out of my but that was about it..

Kind of fun actually.
 
FreakMonster said:
Peyote,
You might get better more educated responses in the Anabolic forum. Go ahead a post there and delete this one if you would like.

Most educated bodybuilders use steroids to get them past there genetic limit. Steroids take you a step above what some people can't do naturally.

As far as lower test levels permanently, that is total BS. Your test levels are only low when on a cycle and several months after. I know of several guys that have been on for years then gotten off for several months and their test levels went back to normal.
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I want the answers coming from just users not enthusiasts. And the question was intended for people who are not bodybuilders.
 
Peyote Killa said:


I want the answers coming from just users not enthusiasts. And the question was intended for people who are not bodybuilders.
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LOL, Everyone that is an enthusiast is a user. So your not making any sense with that statement.

Also I never heard of a person using steroids that wasn't a bodybuilder. People don't just use steroids and sit on the couch and watch TV!!!
 
Desire.


Everyone wants to get from Point A to Point B.


There's 2 different routes.

Route 1 is the long way but ensures you reach your destination safely.

Route 2 is much much shorter and there is a slight danger, but almost all these dangers can be counteracted by taking proper precautions.

If Point B holds something so desirable to the person choosing between the routes he'd choose Route 2.


Fuck I don't know what I'm talking about. MOst people are just lazy.
 
WormAAA77 said:
Desire.


Everyone wants to get from Point A to Point B.


There's 2 different routes.

Route 1 is the long way but ensures you reach your destination safely.

Route 2 is much much shorter and there is a slight danger, but almost all these dangers can be counteracted by taking proper precautions.

If Point B holds something so desirable to the person choosing between the routes he'd choose Route 2.


Fuck I don't know what I'm talking about. MOst people are just lazy.
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Fuck you.. How can you call someome lazy who works out hard 5 days a week?????

Just because someone takes roids does not mean that they are lazy... In fact, they are actually probably more motivated..

It is quite simple, you can attain things with aas that are not otherwise achievable. PERIOD..

Dont give me no bullshit about hard work blah blah blah..

Most fools that dont take shit looked the same 5 years ago that they do now.

I hate ignorance.
 
well i have yet to do a cycle however i know the day is coming.

here's why.

how many people have posted on here about fat people and then about skinny people... the same applies in real life... we all want to fit in no matter what even non comformist are all doing the same thing... they are non comforming... therefore society sets the standard for beauty and I am falling into their trap... i think society is to blame for the needle about to go in my ass...
 
Still waiting to hear why taking unregulated substances, without clear knowledge of side effects, that are less effective and more expensive is better.

And don't argue legality, because if that's all you've got, you shouldn't be getting high by your own logic.

As to testosterone supression/impact on the HPTA, AS do impact it to differing degrees, as does not sleeping, drinking, smoking. There are clear strategies for minimizing HPTA supression. It takes extreme abuse to permanently impact the HPTA, providing that the user doesn't start at too young of an age.
 
addickt said:


Fuck you.. How can you call someome lazy who works out hard 5 days a week?????

Just because someone takes roids does not mean that they are lazy... In fact, they are actually probably more motivated..

It is quite simple, you can attain things with aas that are not otherwise achievable. PERIOD..

Dont give me no bullshit about hard work blah blah blah..

Most fools that dont take shit looked the same 5 years ago that they do now.

I hate ignorance.
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What are you talking about man? I used the word most, not all. You can't argue the fact that the majority of people that use never put full effort into it naturally. Damn, pretty harsh words considering the majority of my post was in favor of using, however, like i said, there's tons of people that use just because they're lazy and think they are magic.
 
I think most use out of sheer vanity. I want to look as good as I possibly can. Looking good attracts mates, commands respect, and generally makes all people more receptive to you.

When you see that your years of training have been good, but in the last six months of working out 5 days a week, you haven't seen any morphological changes, you look to other things to help you out. What better than AS? As a general rule, they make you feel better about yourself, and they allow you to surpass plateaus on which you have been stuck for months or sometimes years.
 
WormAAA77 said:



What are you talking about man? I used the word most, not all. You can't argue the fact that the majority of people that use never put full effort into it naturally. Damn, pretty harsh words considering the majority of my post was in favor of using, however, like i said, there's tons of people that use just because they're lazy and think they are magic.
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Can you please define natural?

Test is naturally occuring hormone.....

I think you would grow from drinking my semen
 
Peyote Killa said:


I want the answers coming from just users not enthusiasts. And the question was intended for people who are not bodybuilders.
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I have always been small an thin my whole life and never got any respect from people or girls. I've gotten walked over a lot in my life....

Steroids and body building help build my confidence , fell a lot better with myself , and to me that's important and worth the health risk because i don't want to go through life the way i did before.

Body building turned into a huge hobby for me now and the goals i set for my self have helped a lot with my life in the past year & 1/2.

The self satisfaction is very well worth it to me
 
I've thouhgt about doing a cycle so far i'm clean though. i've only tried pro hormones once. Thats only though because i'm 19 and i want my body to fully develop before I inject myself with gear. I am pretty sure though I will try it in my early twenties though maybe 22 is the year for me to pop my anabolic cherry!?! Also there are alot of kids in my gym that are on juice and have no clue how to use them or what stacks to use and the clomid therapy. These kids just piss me off cause they abuse them too. I know some kids that go on a 10 week bulk cycle and than 2 weeks later are ready to try FINa wtf! Me and HI get quite irritated when talking to some of our gym buddies that are juicen and are hardly stronger than us actually alot are weaker, cuase most have no base what so ever before they juice. I'm not saying i know alot about the shit im just saying I have read quite a bit from the anabolics forum and these kids here do nothig of the sort except inject themselves with all kinds of shit haveing no clue about the science behind it.

"There are only two options regarding comitment. You're either IN or you're OUT. There's no such thing as life in-between." - Pat Riley

"The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can doit, as long as you really believe 100 percent." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

"Remeber... when you are not practicing, someone somewhere, is practicing, and when you meet hime he will win." ~ Bill Bradley
" If we are strong are strength will speak for itself, if we are weak words will be of no help" ~ J.F.K.
 
casavant said:


I know several people like this.
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sure...we all know people like this...and these are the same people that are bitching about not seeing any gains come....people who think that AAS is an easy way out are flat out wrong....taking gear is hard...you have to train harder...eat better...everything is done much more intensly....
 
kronkette said:


sure...we all know people like this...and these are the same people that are bitching about not seeing any gains come....people who think that AAS is an easy way out are flat out wrong....taking gear is hard...you have to train harder...eat better...everything is done much more intensly....
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Good post!!!
 
kronkette said:


sure...we all know people like this...and these are the same people that are bitching about not seeing any gains come....people who think that AAS is an easy way out are flat out wrong....taking gear is hard...you have to train harder...eat better...everything is done much more intensly....
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No argument here.
 
Peyote Killa: honestly...your first point has a very valid side to it. Your reasons are flawed...but your idea and point is a very good one, I believe.

Nothing gets under my skin like someone who at 165lbs decides to jump on gear to get them past their plateau.

B True
 
Steroid_Virgin said:
why do women get tit jobs...
why do people ge nose jobs...
why do men get hair plugs...
why do women wear makeup..
why do people left weights at all..
why do people ask stupid questions..
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA that's a great answer
 
You guys have some really great answers, I appreciate all of them, and I hope I didn't get under anyones skin when I started this thread, but I just wanted to know some of the motives behind doing gear and such.

I want all of you guys to know that hanging around Havoc for the last year ha skinda made me biast to riods and any other kind of outside hormones. Havoc is a true ambassoder of flawless execution in the gym and in the nutrition ring. I'm noy saying that I disagree with people who do riods, but it's just not my cup of tea.

Thanks again for all the input.
 
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