To ALL GH Users!! Please help!!

[hayesjones]

Would it be even worth the money to spend on a 2month supply of GH if I could? 252iu's

What I mean, is it a long enough cycle to get good results, or am i wasting my time. I cant afford to keep up on the bill for the stuff but wanted to see if I tried it for 2 months it would be effective.

Thanks

 

[hayesjones]

bump for me, cmon

 

[hayesjones]

damn! I can get no love

 

[Amp]

What kind are you going to get? Are you using for fat burning or muscle building. If it's for fat burning and you are in your late twenties or 30+ years old it has amazing fat burning properties on its own and 252 IU's would allow you to take 6IU's 5 days on 2 days off for 8 weeks straight. If it's for muscle building you may need to go for at least 6-8IU's for 3-4 months - however even if it doesn't make you build that much more muscle you can eat like a pig and you won't get fat and may even still get leaner on a bulking cycle so that in itself is worth alot to me. For me it works best as a fat burner without having to change my diet.

 

[Zyglamail]

If thats all you can afford to get I would run 2-3 IU as long as you can.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

If you were to run 2-3 ius a day would you take days off during the week. Also at this dosage would you see any side effects.

 

[hayesjones]

thanks for all the info. I will be using Somaject

 

[Zyglamail]

If you were to run 2-3 ius a day would you take days off during the week. Also at this dosage would you see any side effects.

No need to really take days off at any dose, only reason is to save $$$. You shouldnt have any sides at that dose. Should help a little with fat loss, recovery, apetite, sleep, skin tone etc though.

 

[liftsiron]

Zyglamail If thats all you can afford to get I would run 2-3 IU as long as you can.

You bet, I get lean and real hard looking, with killer pumps on 2 to 4 ius each day. Its up to you if you want to run 5 days on and 2 days off or each day. 5 and 2 will make your supply last longer. I use hgh for leaness, recovery, and as a anti-aging tool, it does the trick at 2 to 3ius. The results from hgh tend to last for quite a peroid afterwards as long as you stick to a good diet and work out program. I really don't gain alot of mas with hgh but the muscle that I get is quality.

 

[ryker77]

I'm in the same boat as hayes. But I can afford 4 halo kits. I'm going to be taking humalog along with the GH and of course tren&test. I'm only going to take post workout 2 days on two days off.

Is thier a ratio of slin to gh?

Can I mix the two in the same shot? Its only a stupid question if I didn't ask.

Can I site Subq inject the gh? I really want some huge calves!


Of course Karma to those that answer!!!!

 

[Zyglamail]

I'm in the same boat as hayes. But I can afford 4 halo kits. I'm going to be taking humalog along with the GH and of course tren&test. I'm only going to take post workout 2 days on two days off.

Is thier a ratio of slin to gh?

Can I mix the two in the same shot? Its only a stupid question if I didn't ask.

Can I site Subq inject the gh? I really want some huge calves!


Of course Karma to those that answer!!!!

I suppose you could take them in the same inj, but I dont see a need too. GH only lasts a little while but its effects on the body as a whole cascade from time of injection and this is all thats really important so you dont need to take it with the slin injection. You can do the GH subq or IM, I myself do subq in problem fatty areas. There is no real ratio of slin to gh, just make sure you get the carbs you need with slin post workout. The GH will help to make sure excess isnt stored in fat. Usually the release of one (slin or GH) will reduce the other. One reason post workout slin is used, not only because of depeleted stores but because of the natural GH pulse that is triggered from exercise.

 

[Ulter]

No need to really take days off at any dose, only reason is to save $$$. You shouldnt have any sides at that dose. Should help a little with fat loss, recovery, apetite, sleep, skin tone etc though.

Mmmmm I don't agree. You will shut down your natural production, as miniscule as that might be, and taking days off will allow for your natural gh production to stay in service.

 

[ryker77]

I didn't think it was a good ideal to take both in the same shoot. Had to ask.

So its better to take the slin post workout which I knew. I workout in the afternoon around 4-5pm.

Then take the GH in the morning or before bed?

First time with gh and I've got alot to learn. Thanks for the info.

 

[SOLID]

what's a good age to mabey start thinking about the use of GH.

 

[Zyglamail]

Mmmmm I don't agree. You will shut down your natural production, as miniscule as that might be, and taking days off will allow for your natural gh production to stay in service.

Most of what I have seen indicates a single exo does affects natural output for approx 72 hours due to the various feedback mechanisms, taking 2 days off likely doesnt have that much benefit. GH output seems to recover rapidly after cessation of exo intake.

 

[TPH]

ryker - I don't think it is optimal to take GH right before bed. The body's Gh spikes 2-3 hours after going to sleep, exo. Gh may inhibit this.

Which presents a problem for me, since I train at night, I will be injecting the slin post wo. Should I take the GH in the AM even tho I will be training and taking the slin in the PM???

Did Zyg anwser this?? Did he mean that there is no benefit to taking the Gh concurrently with the slin?? Or for that matter taking the GH post training?? meaning it would be better to take the gh upon waking.

TPH

 

[liftsiron]

Take the gh in the morning as opposed to night time. The reason being is that durning sleep you produce your highest natural gh

 

[Zyglamail]

Did Zyg anwser this?? Did he mean that there is no benefit to taking the Gh concurrently with the slin?? Or for that matter taking the GH post training?? meaning it would be better to take the gh upon waking.

TPH

GH itself is short lived however its systemic effects last for some time. Because the effects are so long lived there is no benefit to taking GH and slin at the same time. AM inj of GH seems to have a lesser effect on natural production if taken at small amount. Large doses inhibit regardless of when its taken.

 

[Ulter]

Ok I can't argue that because I haven't personally looked into it. I was prescribed Serostim and the instructions on the label were to take 2 days off. When I questioned the endo his response was what I posted. Sometimes I just go with what doctors tell me instead of researching it myself. I should know better.

 

[ryker77]

Take the gh in the morning as opposed to night time. The reason being is that durning sleep you produce your highest natural gh

Thats what I had though was best.


That means three shots a day!! One gh one tren and one slin. We must be crazy

 

[TPH]

ryker - I'm hoping we will get a concensus on your query. As I wrote above I have the same issue as you:

If one trains at night, and therefore takes the slin at night (hopefully humalog), is there a benefit to taking the GH with the log??? Is it better to just take the Gh in the AM??

 

[Zyglamail]

ryker - I'm hoping we will get a concensus on your query. As I wrote above I have the same issue as you:

If one trains at night, and therefore takes the slin at night (hopefully humalog), is there a benefit to taking the GH with the log??? Is it better to just take the Gh in the AM??

If your taking 4+IU I would say when you take it doesnt matter a whole lot since it will have an impact on natural production no matter when its taken. If your just looking to save pokes, then taking it with slin I suppose wouldnt be a problem but it likely wont have a benefit either. subq inj are nothing, half the time you cant even feel the pin break the skin they are so small.

 

[TPH]

Zyg, thank you, but if the Gh is taken in proximity to sleep will the exo. GH impede the natural growth spike which occurs within the first few hours of sleep??

If so, would it not be better to get a spike in the am with exo. gh and a spike in the pm during sleep with natural production???

Note that I will definately be taking log post workout in the PM, regardless of when I take the GH>

Thank you

TPH

 

[Zyglamail]

The GH spike from what I have seen occures between like 1 and 3am(if my memory serves me correctly). Taking it in the PM will likely have more of an effect on your natural spike than taking it in the AM upon waking.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

27 too young to give gh a try.

 

[Zyglamail]

27 too young to give gh a try.

I dont think its too young to try but your money would likely be better spent elsewhere.

 

[ryker77]

The GH spike from what I have seen occures between like 1 and 3am(if my memory serves me correctly). Taking it in the PM will likely have more of an effect on your natural spike than taking it in the AM upon waking.

A good effect or bad effect?

 

[Zyglamail]

A good effect or bad effect?

It will be more detrimental if taken in the PM since more of the GH's feedback mechanisms will be involved.