Time to get down and dirty

[Smokescreen]

I've been here for a while. And I'm sorry to bring this up but I feel like it is a must. A lot of both older and more experienced bros have spoke to me about this. We realize that there a lot of wannabes, knowitalls and talk shits here on this great forum of ours.

I noticed that there a lot of bros here that like to run their mouth and give advice that is worthless. Worthless why? Because they have nothing to back it up with! NOTHING!!! What do I mean? Shit! Look around! I would be more than happy to take advice from say...Slyder, Needsize, DialTone, Latamier any day! Why? Because they have pics of themselves to back up the info they spit out!

While some of you, I see talk a lot of crap. Yet some of you have never even touched a syringe in your life! For example...you ask " which gears should I use for maximum size"? Then these wannabes start throwing out so much info...yet their pics are fucking pittiful! They got arms the size of my fucking finger!

Put it like this...would you take financial advice from a homeless person???
Would you take advice from a blind person on how to get from point A to point B?
Would you take sex advice from a fucking virgin?

Do you see where I'm getting at here? When I first joined here many,many years ago under another name...bros knew what they were saying. Because they lived the game and did the gear. Now that I rejoined this site almost a year ago, I see that there are too many shit talkers here. Don't know shit of shit! Still live at home with mommy and daddy. Just picked up their first vial of Deca a month ago and already think that they are ready to give me advice?! I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO!!!!

Like I said, i have spoken to a few older guys and vets of this board on the side and they too agree with me 100% on what has happend here. Shit! Some older members don't even post here anymore because of the shit that is going on here.

This is why its time to get down and dirty. Time to find out whos and who and knows what! Because I am not here to chat...I'm here to fucking learn and grow like a beast. And occasiaonlly have my fun of course. But still...this is serious game that I take serioulsy. Poll time bitches!!!

 

[yomama]

I've been here for a while. And I'm sorry to bring this up but I feel like it is a must. A lot of both older and more experienced bros have spoke to me about this. We realize that there a lot of wannabes, knowitalls and talk shits here on this great forum of ours.

I noticed that there a lot of bros here that like to run their mouth and give advice that is worthless. Worthless why? Because they have nothing to back it up with! NOTHING!!! What do I mean? Shit! Look around! I would be more than happy to take advice from say...Slyder, Needsize, DialTone, Latamier any day! Why? Because they have pics of themselves to back up the info they spit out!

While some of you, I see talk a lot of crap. Yet some of you have never even touched a syringe in your life! For example...you ask " which gears should I use for maximum size"? Then these wannabes start throwing out so much info...yet their pics are fucking pittiful! They got arms the size of my fucking finger!

Put it like this...would you take financial advice from a homeless person???
Would you take advice from a blind person on how to get from point A to point B?
Would you take sex advice from a fucking virgin?

Do you see where I'm getting at here? When I first joined here many,many years ago under another name...bros knew what they were saying. Because they lived the game and did the gear. Now that I rejoined this site almost a year ago, I see that there are too many shit talkers here. Don't know shit of shit! Still live at home with mommy and daddy. Just picked up their first vial of Deca a month ago and already think that they are ready to give me advice?! I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO!!!!

Like I said, i have spoken to a few older guys and vets of this board on the side and they too agree with me 100% on what has happend here. Shit! Some older members don't even post here anymore because of the shit that is going on here.

This is why its time to get down and dirty. Time to find out whos and who and knows what! Because I am not here to chat...I'm here to fucking learn and grow like a beast. And occasiaonlly have my fun of course. But still...this is serious game that I take serioulsy. Poll time bitches!!!

Poll time on what? It would be nice if everyone could have "signature" and put their stats there, suppose everyone will be honest.

Stats:
Lifted Naturally since 17
Juiced since 20, now I'm 22, so this is my second year juicing.
5'10 217lbs, 7%bf
Fuck, the only thing I've measured is my biceps which is 17"cold.
Now if everyone would put this kinda info into their "signature" that could help. What do you think?

 

[Smokescreen]

There is your poll

 

[Smokescreen]

And answer truthfully bros!

 

[yomama]

Carth, what do you do to get that thick look in the middle of your back. I do everything but seems like it's just growing half way down my back and down. If you know what I mean. My lower back growth like a weed and I dont even train it. But my middle upper back is just not.

 

[Smokescreen]

Is my Poll looking OK? It doesn't show right on my side.

 

[Smokescreen]

High rows.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

i agree with your thread..but do you think a poll with be an honest one? i mean who is going to vote that they have very little experince and then go make 10 posts giving advice??? anyone with any intelligence wouldnt do that..but then again some of te BS ive read on here and other places wouldnt surprise me

 

[Smokescreen]

No Lie! But i knew you would post here and agree with me. So what do you suggest we do Beast? I also agree on what you said. How can we fix this little post?

 

[ocisbomb]

One thing to clarify: When you say your physique SHOWS it, what I'm interested in, is, do you look GOOD, not, do you look BIG. I'm not very experienced with juice, but I don't want guys that look like bowling balls giving me advice. If you have a v-frame, and look like you're stuffed with bowling balls, very nice, but if you just look like a big fat guy, I'd prefer to not end up that way.

 

[Smokescreen]

One thing to clarify: When you say your physique SHOWS it, what I'm interested in, is, do you look GOOD, not, do you look BIG. I'm not very experienced with juice, but I don't want guys that look like bowling balls giving me advice. If you have a v-frame, and look like you're stuffed with bowling balls, very nice, but if you just look like a big fat guy, I'd prefer to not end up that way.

LOL...now we're getting somewhere.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

One thing to clarify: When you say your physique SHOWS it, what I'm interested in, is, do you look GOOD, not, do you look BIG. I'm not very experienced with juice, but I don't want guys that look like bowling balls giving me advice. If you have a v-frame, and look like you're stuffed with bowling balls, very nice, but if you just look like a big fat guy, I'd prefer to not end up that way.

I disagree slightly..no not everyone wants to be fat..but it just takes discipline to get shredded..im sure most vets on here have the "knowledge" to get ripped..afterall isnt it knowledge the reason why we are here..to share our true experinces..

carth-
unfortunately im not quite sure how we can fix the poll..i think once someone spends time here you will learn who knows their shit or not..your right though it would be nice if the guys teh NS and Dt etc looked up to were still here posting..now that would be a sick board..dont get me wrong i have a lot of respect for the mods here..ask tehm for help and theyll help you..

 

[glennds]

how about us guys who have juiced over 1 year and under three years? i don't run around giving advice about things i don't understand but you can learn a LOT in a year or two. newer guys are interested in what "sophmores" may have to say from their initial experiences.

 

[slash747]

5'9
230
bf%: ?? ( way to high )

By everyones standards on here I should not even be posting. I dont speak for everyone but I am most critical of myself and I do not know half the shit that most people know here, but im here to learn and if it is a subject that I am familiar with Ill try to help. I go through and look at some of my earlier posts and I want to kick my ass because I was immature, stupid, and 23. Most people that dont know what they are talking about and are giving bad advise usually are convinced that they do know what they are talking about.

My .02

 

[boyer]

You have to read and determine who knows what they are talking about. Your poll has alot of flaws, because you have to consider different variables. Your avatar looks pretty good, but from some of the questions that you ask, I was surprized to see that you have 8 plus years of experience.

 

[yomama]

One thing to clarify: When you say your physique SHOWS it, what I'm interested in, is, do you look GOOD, not, do you look BIG. I'm not very experienced with juice, but I don't want guys that look like bowling balls giving me advice. If you have a v-frame, and look like you're stuffed with bowling balls, very nice, but if you just look like a big fat guy, I'd prefer to not end up that way.

That's why beast shouldnt be giving advice to anyone.

 

[sweed]

ya, i do notice some people on here that talk about their cycles and then i see a pic of them and im like, ok im bigger than you and i havn't touched gear? I dont mean to be that guy, but i dont think people like to earn muscle the hard way first to get a good base then to build on that..

my stats:
6'2''
218 and gaining every week
8-10% ?
21

 

[yomama]

ya, i do notice some people on here that talk about their cycles and then i see a pic of them and im like, ok im bigger than you and i havn't touched gear? I dont mean to be that guy, but i dont think people like to earn muscle the hard way first to get a good base then to build on that..

my stats:
6'2''
218 and gaining every week
8-10% ?
21

WHen was the last time you had your bodyfat measured??

 

[sweed]

WHen was the last time you had your bodyfat measured??

never have, im guessing cuz i can still see my abs, haha

 

[jbradley2093]

I have to disagree with a few point in your thread.

First, There are plenty of people out there that are fucking huge that have done gear plenty of times and don't have a clue what they are doing. They know that everytime they do sust/deca/dbol they get big as fuck, then 6 months later shrink up like a nut sack on a cold day in alaska. So they do it again, maybe throw in some anadrol in between and eat a lot of cheese burgers and they are one of the biggest guys in the gym.

Hell I read in Arnolds book that back in the day they would eat d-bol like candy before the gym. He said that everyone's teeth were blue from it. That was not knowledge, they just knew it worked. (Side note - Half of those guys are dead now)

Then you have those guys that have spent months, maybe years researching every aspect of gear, PCT, training, diet, etc before even doing thier first cycle. There are plenty of people out there writing the articles and books that you gain your knowledge from that don't even work out. They are called doctors and scientists.

I agree that real life experiences are very important in giving advice, but you don't have to have a thick back to have all the book smarts about gear, pct, and diet.

I think this poll is flawed and it will accomplish nothing. Go ahead, flame away. Just my .02

 

[needsize]

most of the reponses you see on the forums are just guys repeating something they saw someone else post another time, very few post from real experience. Or someone asks a question like "what is better for mass, masteron or fina"?, and a guy that ran fina once, but never touched masteron, but is somehow an expert will give a definitive answer....
only thing you can do is pay attention to peoples posts, and over time you can figure out who knows what they are talking about

 

[wnt2bBeast]

That's why beast shouldnt be giving advice to anyone.

whats that supposed to mean?

 

[slat1]

After you are on here for a while you start to see who knows what. I'm sure thats what prompted this thread. Thats the beauty of PM'ing. You can go to those you respect and trust to get and honest an educated answer without all the unproven bullshit!

 

[slat1]

Forgot to mention:

6'3"
240
9%

Working out seriously since 1997 with proper diet. Been on and off AAS since 2000 I think (made a ton of newbie mistakes). Current issues... strained left bicep tendon, degenerative disk disease (no squats, dead lifts or bent over rows...EVER)

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Forgot to mention:

6'3"
240
9%

Working out seriously since 1997 with proper diet. Been on and off AAS since 2000 I think (made a ton of newbie mistakes). Current issues... strained left bicep tendon, degenerative disk disease (no squats, dead lifts or bent over rows...EVER)

ive got the same bicep issues..try using a neoprene sleeve as well as cutting your weights way down..ive never done high reps for anything in my life but im hitting bis in the 10-30 rep range..its too early to tell te type of growth if any ill get but the pain is almost non existant and i can at least get some driect stimuli for te bi's..

 

[Mrflx]

I agree that there are too many wannabees, not only here, but at other forum sites as well

 

[AMGETR]

19 years old
5'8"
179lbs
8.2% bf
All natural still I guess. I was starting a cycle 6 weeks ago, but none of it except the tren was real. So I'm restarting next week. Should be good. I'll keep you guys updated.

BTW: I posed 1 year old less experience.

 

[Smokescreen]

You have to read and determine who knows what they are talking about. Your poll has alot of flaws, because you have to consider different variables. Your avatar looks pretty good, but from some of the questions that you ask, I was surprized to see that you have 8 plus years of experience.

I started working out when I was 18 and started taking gear at 20. When I became 26, I had to completely stop all gear. I even stopped going to the gym. I was starting up my own business and I had to be their just about everyday from 6am up until maybe 9 or 10pm. So that left me with no time to do anything. Within that whole time I went from 202lbs to 179lbs. Now I'm 28 years old and I just started training and taking gear as of December. Now I'm up to 193lbs. I didn't have time to train but I did read up on current steroid information for my comeback. So even though i have 8 years experience...I guess its more like 6 since I missed out on 2 years.

About my questions....LMFAO. Sometimes in life, believe it or not....but its good to act like you don't know shit. That way you can see who is full of shit!

 

[Smokescreen]

I have to disagree with a few point in your thread.

First, There are plenty of people out there that are fucking huge that have done gear plenty of times and don't have a clue what they are doing. They know that everytime they do sust/deca/dbol they get big as fuck, then 6 months later shrink up like a nut sack on a cold day in alaska. So they do it again, maybe throw in some anadrol in between and eat a lot of cheese burgers and they are one of the biggest guys in the gym.

Hell I read in Arnolds book that back in the day they would eat d-bol like candy before the gym. He said that everyone's teeth were blue from it. That was not knowledge, they just knew it worked. (Side note - Half of those guys are dead now)

Then you have those guys that have spent months, maybe years researching every aspect of gear, PCT, training, diet, etc before even doing thier first cycle. There are plenty of people out there writing the articles and books that you gain your knowledge from that don't even work out. They are called doctors and scientists.

I agree that real life experiences are very important in giving advice, but you don't have to have a thick back to have all the book smarts about gear, pct, and diet.

I think this poll is flawed and it will accomplish nothing. Go ahead, flame away. Just my .02

No flame towards you. I agree with you.

 

[Smokescreen]

most of the reponses you see on the forums are just guys repeating something they saw someone else post another time, very few post from real experience. Or someone asks a question like "what is better for mass, masteron or fina"?, and a guy that ran fina once, but never touched masteron, but is somehow an expert will give a definitive answer....
only thing you can do is pay attention to peoples posts, and over time you can figure out who knows what they are talking about

I have noticed things like what you said. I once asked a question but I don't remember exactly what it was. I think I asked if Primo was more anabolic than EQ. And the member said EQ. I then asked him if he even took Primo in the first place. You can't give an opinion on which is better if you haven't tried both. Turns out he didn't try Primo...EVER! So then why the hell would he say EQ was better?!!! WTF!!! LOL!!

 

[Apexx]

I'm kinda torn on this issue. I have noticed that the vets around here automatically assume if someone doesn't at least 1,000 posts then they don't know what the hell they are talking about. I'm not a lawyer, but I think I have a pretty good grasp on the law. I'm not a mechanic, but I probably fix anything that could go wrong with a car. I wasn't around during the civil war, but I could probably answer most questions about it. What I'm trying to say in my own long winded way is that just because someone doesn't eat sleep and breath steroids, doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about.
But I gotta say, I have seen some dumb ass advise given by some. I'll be the first to admit that I've even give bad advise before. Luckily there were good bros on this board who corrected me and helped me learn. Isn't that what this board is all about?

 

[Apexx]

PS: I chose: At least 3 years experience and my physique doesn't show it
But I'm sure I'm way to critical of myself
Stats:
5'-11"
205lbs
aprox 12% bf (guessing, I can see the outline of my abs when relaxed, but not quite a six pack)

 

[Smokescreen]

I'm kinda torn on this issue. I have noticed that the vets around here automatically assume if someone doesn't at least 1,000 posts then they don't know what the hell they are talking about. I'm not a lawyer, but I think I have a pretty good grasp on the law. I'm not a mechanic, but I probably fix anything that could go wrong with a car. I wasn't around during the civil war, but I could probably answer most questions about it. What I'm trying to say in my own long winded way is that just because someone doesn't eat sleep and breath steroids, doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about.
But I gotta say, I have seen some dumb ass advise given by some. I'll be the first to admit that I've even give bad advise before. Luckily there were good bros on this board who corrected me and helped me learn. Isn't that what this board is all about?

Your right my man. But there are others that run their mouths off and you can tell they don't know shit! I even look at their avatars or their pics just to make sure that I'm right that they don't know shit. And gues what? I'm right! About that 1000post thing. I cannot agree with you. When I first joined here, I was lucky enough to meet up with a long time member that I got along with pretty good. He showed me around and I learned how things worked around here. I aske questions and everybody answered. Even the mods and vets.

 

[Smokescreen]

PS: I chose: At least 3 years experience and my physique doesn't show it
But I'm sure I'm way to critical of myself
Stats:
5'-11"
205lbs
aprox 12% bf (guessing, I can see the outline of my abs when relaxed, but not quite a six pack)

LOL...thats good enough bro.

 

[Apexx]

Your right my man. But there are others that run their mouths off and you can tell they don't know shit! I even look at their avatars or their pics just to make sure that I'm right that they don't know shit. And gues what? I'm right! About that 1000post thing. I cannot agree with you. When I first joined here, I was lucky enough to meet up with a long time member that I got along with pretty good. He showed me around and I learned how things worked around here. I aske questions and everybody answered. Even the mods and vets.

That's why I said that I'm kinda torn on this issue. I guess I'm a little sensitive because I still a newbie on this board. So when people start newbie
bashing I take it personal.

 

[got2getripped]

I have to disagree with a few point in your thread.

First, There are plenty of people out there that are fucking huge that have done gear plenty of times and don't have a clue what they are doing. They know that everytime they do sust/deca/dbol they get big as fuck, then 6 months later shrink up like a nut sack on a cold day in alaska. So they do it again, maybe throw in some anadrol in between and eat a lot of cheese burgers and they are one of the biggest guys in the gym.

Hell I read in Arnolds book that back in the day they would eat d-bol like candy before the gym. He said that everyone's teeth were blue from it. That was not knowledge, they just knew it worked. (Side note - Half of those guys are dead now)

Then you have those guys that have spent months, maybe years researching every aspect of gear, PCT, training, diet, etc before even doing thier first cycle. There are plenty of people out there writing the articles and books that you gain your knowledge from that don't even work out. They are called doctors and scientists.

I agree that real life experiences are very important in giving advice, but you don't have to have a thick back to have all the book smarts about gear, pct, and diet.

I think this poll is flawed and it will accomplish nothing. Go ahead, flame away. Just my .02

I have to agree with some of the stuff you stated. Also another thing is I see a lot of people on here that claim to have tons of experience with gear and look quite pathetic and I think to myself whatever advice this guy gives me I'll make sure to note as things not to do or try. I havn't been working out that long and I'm a lot bigger than some of them that claim to have been juicing for years.
All I can say is use common sense for christ sake! if somebody tells you something, or if you have any doubt about it at all, do some research and find the answers on your own. It's like a fuckin salesman for radioshack he's gonna tell you his reciever is better than or as good as a Yamaha or Harmon Kardon, but unless you are a complete imbecile and believe whatever anybody tells you, you will be smart enough to know that he is full of shit.

"Wake up and smell the maple nut crunch"

 

[jbradley2093]

I started working out when I was 18 and started taking gear at 20. When I became 26, I had to completely stop all gear. I even stopped going to the gym. I was starting up my own business and I had to be their just about everyday from 6am up until maybe 9 or 10pm. So that left me with no time to do anything. Within that whole time I went from 202lbs to 179lbs. Now I'm 28 years old and I just started training and taking gear as of December. Now I'm up to 193lbs. I didn't have time to train but I did read up on current steroid information for my comeback. So even though i have 8 years experience...I guess its more like 6 since I missed out on 2 years.

About my questions....LMFAO. Sometimes in life, believe it or not....but its good to act like you don't know shit. That way you can see who is full of shit!

That gives me a tear in my eye... You are usually so mean to me.. I even changed my Avatar for you.. LOL

 

[Smokescreen]

That gives me a tear in my eye... You are usually so mean to me.. I even changed my Avatar for you.. LOL

LMFAO!!! Mean to you!? LOL...what are you talking about?! LOL...Nah bro! Your my bro! Just like everybody here. Just that damn avatar was getting me sick!!! This one is much better.

 

[jbradley2093]

LMFAO!!! Mean to you!? LOL...what are you talking about?! LOL...Nah bro! Your my bro! Just like everybody here. Just that damn avatar was getting me sick!!! This one is much better.

I know, I looked long and hard for something that would make me stand out. You always knew who I was though didn't ya!?!?! Anyway this avatar is here to stay, if everyone can't get a laugh out of a hairy bag shoulder pressing 315, then I don't know what will make them smile!

Tired to give ya some more K, but I gotta spread the love first..

 

[Smokescreen]

I likey the avatar!

 

[lardo5150]

Maby so, but I also think it gives a good idea of where people stand on this board as far as use of the drugs. It would take a much more extensive poll to determine who is "knowledgeable", or a "true newbie". It is a good start though.

 

[adam wj]

I've been here for a while. And I'm sorry to bring this up but I feel like it is a must. A lot of both older and more experienced bros have spoke to me about this. We realize that there a lot of wannabes, knowitalls and talk shits here on this great forum of ours.

I noticed that there a lot of bros here that like to run their mouth and give advice that is worthless. Worthless why? Because they have nothing to back it up with! NOTHING!!! What do I mean? Shit! Look around! I would be more than happy to take advice from say...Slyder, Needsize, DialTone, Latamier any day! Why? Because they have pics of themselves to back up the info they spit out!

While some of you, I see talk a lot of crap. Yet some of you have never even touched a syringe in your life! For example...you ask " which gears should I use for maximum size"? Then these wannabes start throwing out so much info...yet their pics are fucking pittiful! They got arms the size of my fucking finger!

Put it like this...would you take financial advice from a homeless person???
Would you take advice from a blind person on how to get from point A to point B?
Would you take sex advice from a fucking virgin?

Do you see where I'm getting at here? When I first joined here many,many years ago under another name...bros knew what they were saying. Because they lived the game and did the gear. Now that I rejoined this site almost a year ago, I see that there are too many shit talkers here. Don't know shit of shit! Still live at home with mommy and daddy. Just picked up their first vial of Deca a month ago and already think that they are ready to give me advice?! I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO!!!!

Like I said, i have spoken to a few older guys and vets of this board on the side and they too agree with me 100% on what has happend here. Shit! Some older members don't even post here anymore because of the shit that is going on here.

This is why its time to get down and dirty. Time to find out whos and who and knows what! Because I am not here to chat...I'm here to fucking learn and grow like a beast. And occasiaonlly have my fun of course. But still...this is serious game that I take serioulsy. Poll time bitches!!!

lol

who died and made you all knowing?

youve been lifting 10 years and probably abusing gear for what, 8? errrr.. using. my fault. the a and b keys are too close to the u key

with the questions you ask around here you have no business putting yourself out there as someone who knows wtf hes talking about.

 

[yomama]

never have, im guessing cuz i can still see my abs, haha

That dont mean shit.

 

[yomama]

Carth, these guys dont even know what their bodyfat is, they're just guessing. Well, that tell you they're guessing on everyone else, their arm size, etc.

 

[Paulo]

About my questions....LMFAO. Sometimes in life, believe it or not....but its good to act like you don't know shit. That way you can see who is full of shit!

I really hope you didn't expect us to do anything but laugh uncontrollably at this statement. Because, actually, I still am...

 

[yomama]

About my questions....LMFAO. Sometimes in life, believe it or not....but its good to act like you don't know shit. That way you can see who is full of shit!

I do it all the time, especially going to a doctor. I just pretend I dont know anything and all I hear is their bullshit, and they dont know shit. You're right, it's good to act like you dont know shit, that way you can see who's full of shit.

 

[Paulo]

That dont mean shit.

Wow, so eloquent and inciteful, er insightful...

 

[quadkilla31]

Alot of people talk a good game, but don't have any game. I might not know alot as some of you on here or what you think you know, but i know what works for me. Just cause what works for one person doesn't work for all. I read what people post and decide for my self rather i believe them or not. This is the net and people can show pics and put pics in their avatar and claim that it's them, but does anyone really know. There's some good info on here and some not so good info. Just read and learn. You're never to old or never know enough to learn something new.

 

[goldenthree]

I agree that alot of people talk shit without having the gains to show for it. However just how big you are is not how knowledgable you are. I am not nearly as big as most of the people on this board, nor as knowledgable as many. However genetics plays a very large role. If you had seen me before I hit the gym you would see a massive difference I was 10 pounds lighter and probably had about a 20% higher body fat. I started out benching 85 pounds at 185 lbs. Then there are guys who have a horrible training method and grow like a weed, they lack determination, or knowledge, but they have the genes.

 

[gregory]

LOL! This is stupidity and shows why bodybuilders tend to be looked upon as dumb. Your physique has little to do with your experience, knowledge or certainly capabilities. Without going into it, it's a damn good thing that the olympic gymnasts don't say to the coaches, "you can't tech me shit about the parallel bars or rings because i don't see you up there doing it", LOL LOL and LOL! There's plenty of low IQ guys in prison that don't know shit about anything lifting with smuggled juice, i suppose they shout all be gurus when they get out and their "advice" would be gold. I know guys who lift 20lb dumbells and have 19" arms and meaty vascular forearms, with a perpetual six pack, you know what? They don't know shit about advanced training, they're sliding by on genetics, and it's funny how the sheeple gravitate to them asking for "advice" as if they discovered some "secret" they won't share, LOL LOL and LOL!

 

[gregory]

I have noticed things like what you said. I once asked a question but I don't remember exactly what it was. I think I asked if Primo was more anabolic than EQ. And the member said EQ. I then asked him if he even took Primo in the first place. You can't give an opinion on which is better if you haven't tried both. Turns out he didn't try Primo...EVER! So then why the hell would he say EQ was better?!!! WTF!!! LOL!!

Because fundamentally EQ is more anabolic then Primo. While this may not be the case for everyone, it is the case on paper. Individual responses should be kept aside. Morphine can be a better pain killer then Ibuprofin on paper and i can say so having never tried morphine and i know i would be right. Now put it into practice and i may be allergic as hell to morphine and ibuprofin may work better, but it does not change the fact the morphine is a better pain killer.

 

[SuperDawgy]

I'm not voting. My reason is as follows:

"It's my own damn business. If i thought for a split second that by telling you how long i've been using or how much experience that i have would amount to a hill of beans, i might reconsider...but the fact stands that this poll is simply a means to make certain people appear to be more knowledgeable than they actually are." End Quote

 

[slat1]

Sometimes in life, believe it or not....but its good to act like you don't know shit. That way you can see who is full of shit!

Ha ha ha... I think I remember that thread. It was like two or three weeks ago! You asked for "expert" advice on something. I remember thinking "Huh, Carth seemed smart enough to know the answer to that question. This is odd!" LOL

 

[Smokescreen]

I do it all the time, especially going to a doctor. I just pretend I dont know anything and all I hear is their bullshit, and they dont know shit. You're right, it's good to act like you dont know shit, that way you can see who's full of shit.

Exactly my point! LOL... The same approach you do...I do too. And guess what MOFOs...my great acting convinced my doc good enough to put me on GH at 4 ius a day for life!!! And for only $40 a month!!!! LMFAO!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 

[ocisbomb]

About my questions....LMFAO. Sometimes in life, believe it or not....but its good to act like you don't know shit. That way you can see who is full of shit!

Love it. So true.

 

[Smokescreen]

I really hope you didn't expect us to do anything but laugh uncontrollably at this statement. Because, actually, I still am...

Its cool! I do whatever takes to get what I want or acheive what I want to acheive. Sorry... it may be cheesy...you might not agree with it...but it works. Its sad and pathetic...but it works! LOL

 

[Smokescreen]

lol

who died and made you all knowing?

youve been lifting 10 years and probably abusing gear for what, 8? errrr.. using. my fault. the a and b keys are too close to the u key

with the questions you ask around here you have no business putting yourself out there as someone who knows wtf hes talking about.

Adam...stop it ok! You say that your the chicken addict. From your pics...you look like a damn chicken.

 

[Smokescreen]

lol

who died and made you all knowing?

youve been lifting 10 years and probably abusing gear for what, 8? errrr.. using. my fault. the a and b keys are too close to the u key

with the questions you ask around here you have no business putting yourself out there as someone who knows wtf hes talking about.

10 years? WTF are you talking about? I already told everybody that I started gear at 20 and had to stop when I was like 24-25 years old. Even stopped going to the gym that whole time. I was starting up my own business and I had to be at work from 6am to 9 or 10pm everday. I'm 28 years old now and I just started the juice again and lifting as of December.

Shit..you all are fucking weird attacking me. Just the other day some guy was running his mouth and Needsize said to this talkshit the same thing we are currently talking about. Needsize asked him who was he to be talking when he doesn't even have pics of himself to prove his knowledge.

YES MOFOS!!! NEEDSIZE SAID THIS SHIT!!! I WAS THERE AT THAT THREAD!!!

AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ATTACKING HIM!

 

[Smokescreen]

LOL! This is stupidity and shows why bodybuilders tend to be looked upon as dumb. Your physique has little to do with your experience, knowledge or certainly capabilities. Without going into it, it's a damn good thing that the olympic gymnasts don't say to the coaches, "you can't tech me shit about the parallel bars or rings because i don't see you up there doing it", LOL LOL and LOL! There's plenty of low IQ guys in prison that don't know shit about anything lifting with smuggled juice, i suppose they shout all be gurus when they get out and their "advice" would be gold. I know guys who lift 20lb dumbells and have 19" arms and meaty vascular forearms, with a perpetual six pack, you know what? They don't know shit about advanced training, they're sliding by on genetics, and it's funny how the sheeple gravitate to them asking for "advice" as if they discovered some "secret" they won't share, LOL LOL and LOL!

I always respect what you say bro. Unlike some others around here. According to the way you talk...I can tell your not a young punk like some here. Am I right?

 

[jbradley2093]

10 years? WTF are you talking about? I already told everybody that I started gear at 20 and had to stop when I was like 24-25 years old. Even stopped going to the gym that whole time. I was starting up my own business and I had to be at work from 6am to 9 or 10pm everday. I'm 28 years old now and I just started the juice again and lifting as of December.

Shit..you all are fucking weird attacking me. Just the other day some guy was running his mouth and Needsize said to this talkshit the same thing we are currently talking about. Needsize asked him who was he to be talking when he doesn't even have pics of himself to prove his knowledge.

YES MOFOS!!! NEEDSIZE SAID THIS SHIT!!! I WAS THERE AT THAT THREAD!!!

AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ATTACKING HIM!

I still love you Carth...

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I've been here for a while. And I'm sorry to bring this up but I feel like it is a must. A lot of both older and more experienced bros have spoke to me about this. We realize that there a lot of wannabes, knowitalls and talk shits here on this great forum of ours.

I noticed that there a lot of bros here that like to run their mouth and give advice that is worthless. Worthless why? Because they have nothing to back it up with! NOTHING!!! What do I mean? Shit! Look around! I would be more than happy to take advice from say...Slyder, Needsize, DialTone, Latamier any day! Why? Because they have pics of themselves to back up the info they spit out!

While some of you, I see talk a lot of crap. Yet some of you have never even touched a syringe in your life! For example...you ask " which gears should I use for maximum size"? Then these wannabes start throwing out so much info...yet their pics are fucking pittiful! They got arms the size of my fucking finger!

Put it like this...would you take financial advice from a homeless person???
Would you take advice from a blind person on how to get from point A to point B?
Would you take sex advice from a fucking virgin?

Do you see where I'm getting at here? When I first joined here many,many years ago under another name...bros knew what they were saying. Because they lived the game and did the gear. Now that I rejoined this site almost a year ago, I see that there are too many shit talkers here. Don't know shit of shit! Still live at home with mommy and daddy. Just picked up their first vial of Deca a month ago and already think that they are ready to give me advice?! I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO!!!!

Like I said, i have spoken to a few older guys and vets of this board on the side and they too agree with me 100% on what has happend here. Shit! Some older members don't even post here anymore because of the shit that is going on here.

This is why its time to get down and dirty. Time to find out whos and who and knows what! Because I am not here to chat...I'm here to fucking learn and grow like a beast. And occasiaonlly have my fun of course. But still...this is serious game that I take serioulsy. Poll time bitches!!!

If youre going to be up front about this, start throwing out some names...why not? I agree with you though about people saying stuff and not being 100% sure about their answers. Oh, and I like your avatar but wipe yourself off with a towel, it'll look better, all I see is a sweaty back

 

[adam wj]

Adam...stop it ok! You say that your the chicken addict. From your pics...you look like a damn chicken.

holy shit carth, your schoolgirl insult style cuts so deep lemme go find my box of tissuses!

youre a joke dude, and anyone with half a clue knows it. you pretend to be an idiot on here so you can weed out "who knows shit"? we'll dude, the gig is up, you just blew your cover so feel free to stop anytime, you advanced diet and training guru you!

 

[Smokescreen]

Have you guys seen the poll results? Amazing huh? A lot of you said...

Never touched gear, but I think I know it all

And whats sooooo fucking shocking is that I know who voted for what. I am sooooo surprised to see who voted. I would have NEVER in a million years thought that some of these people would be the ones to pick the first vote. Holy shit! And to think, with all their time here, all their posts, their karmas and their mouth yapping acting Mr. Bigshot....I...I can't even type anymore...its tooooo shocking!

HOWEVER, THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T SHOCK AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS PERSON HAS DONE NOTHING BUT DISRESPECT ME AND GET ON MY NERVES IS..............

You Adam! You voted for the first vote? Yeah...your pics show it.

 

[Smokescreen]

If youre going to be up front about this, start throwing out some names...why not? I agree with you though about people saying stuff and not being 100% sure about their answers. Oh, and I like your avatar but wipe yourself off with a towel, it'll look better, all I see is a sweaty back

Bro...its not that...its dudes like....Adam. Runnig their mouths saying take this and take that. And inject this this day but not at this time. Yet! The mofo picks the first vote! You look at his pics and he looks like a flabby chicken! I mean come on! Read what I said before Detroit.

WOULD YOU TAKE FINANCIAL ADVICE FROM A HOMELESS PERSON???

Then why trust somebody with your BB like that of a peson like Adam?

 

[adam wj]

lemme help you out here

1. a is the first letter in the alphabet. so, a comes before b, and j, etc
2. the 6 people who voted for that did it for a reason. hmmm i wonder if any of us talked in private before voting on that....

you deserve all the disrespect in the world carth, you run around talking like you're the big man, shit on everyone elses pics (thanks for proving that point last post), and send pretty unstable/raging pms to people you'll never meet. did you forget about that?

every post you make further proves my point. talk about me in every post you make, i know your blood is probably boiling right now the truth sucks huh cutie?

i'll drop it here because i've made my point. i'm sure you won't, but its your thread so take it where you want.

 

[Smokescreen]

Adam...relax papa! Your just a fat angry dude...thats all. Its ok..I forgive your hatred and anger. If I looked like you, I too would be damn pissed off. Like I said, its damn funny how older vets here do the same things I do and say the same...yet YOU don't say shit about them. Whatever fattie...just drop it.

 

[Smokescreen]

BTW...congrats on your Red Sox Champs! Those MOFOs deserve it! I'm a Yankee fan myself, but I still watched every Game after they killed the Yanks. I cheered for them all the way. There a good team and I'm happy they won! Just letting you know.

 

[sweed]

That dont mean shit.

thanks man.

btw i chose the first choice for the poll... but i read it wrong.... there should be one that is : No experience but learning.. I def dont know everything about it, i dont wanna be one of those guys that thinks so.

 

[Smokescreen]

thanks man.

btw i chose the first choice for the poll... but i read it wrong.... there should be one that is : No experience but learning.. I def dont know everything about it, i dont wanna be one of those guys that thinks so.

Well goddamn! At least your an HONEST BOSTONIAN! Not like other BOSTONIANS I know around here. Now I know what New Yorkers and Bostonians don't get along. But you are OK in my book! Honesty is the best policy. Just keep learning bro. Get books, search the web and most importantly...learn from the good bros here. Not the blabbermouths!

 

[yomama]

LOL! This is stupidity and shows why bodybuilders tend to be looked upon as dumb. Your physique has little to do with your experience, knowledge or certainly capabilities. Without going into it, it's a damn good thing that the olympic gymnasts don't say to the coaches, "you can't tech me shit about the parallel bars or rings because i don't see you up there doing it", LOL LOL and LOL! There's plenty of low IQ guys in prison that don't know shit about anything lifting with smuggled juice, i suppose they shout all be gurus when they get out and their "advice" would be gold. I know guys who lift 20lb dumbells and have 19" arms and meaty vascular forearms, with a perpetual six pack, you know what? They don't know shit about advanced training, they're sliding by on genetics, and it's funny how the sheeple gravitate to them asking for "advice" as if they discovered some "secret" they won't share, LOL LOL and LOL!

When it comes down to the end, it's all about proportion.

 

[gregory]

I always respect what you say bro. Unlike some others around here. According to the way you talk...I can tell your not a young punk like some here. Am I right?

Likewise bro, like wise. I don't understand why people are attacking you, i mean i understand why, just don't see the point. You're calling out bullshitters, props to you. Too many information "re-hashers" on this board.

 

[SuperDawgy]

*plays the "As the world turns" theme as he wades through the ever deepening potholes of drama*

Carth, you're good people...a little high strung, but good people none the less. What i'm wondering is...have you accomplished what you set out to do by devising this thread? Are you a better BB for doing so? If so, congrats. If not, you might want to rethink posting another thread like this. I really don't see how anything good could have possibly come out of this.

 

[slash747]

Too many information re-hashers?

Everyone re-hashes information in one way or another. Unless some of you guys have written books on AAS, which may be possible, everyone re-hashes information in one form or another.That is how the transfer "information" of works, I dont expect to read one history book and expect it to have all the information and be 100% accurate, it will have the persepective of the person who wrote the book. Knowledge is not aquired by listening to one person. It is aquired by reading and gathering endless sources and coming to a conclusion for youreself what works.

I welcome everyone to reply to my posts, Vets and Newbies. I may relate more to the newbie than the vet. If I were to have listened to some of the most biggest guys on this board that have come and gone through the years and only listened to them, then I might have been shooting 4 grams of test a week.

Not meant to be a flame torwards anyone. But everyone newbies and vets might learn from eachother.

My .02

Likewise bro, like wise. I don't understand why people are attacking you, i mean i understand why, just don't see the point. You're calling out bullshitters, props to you. Too many information "re-hashers" on this board.

 

[gregory]

Slash i think we both know what i meant when i used the term "re-hashers". If you've been here long enough you can spot a re-hasher from a mile away. I've been here for 3 years but may last accound got deleted for a 3 week inactivity, go figure. This bord is built by it's members and their input builds this boards database, but we get deleted unless we pay to acess our own info, the very info on which this bord now profits, but whatever.

 

[Smokescreen]

*plays the "As the world turns" theme as he wades through the ever deepening potholes of drama*

Carth, you're good people...a little high strung, but good people none the less. What i'm wondering is...have you accomplished what you set out to do by devising this thread? Are you a better BB for doing so? If so, congrats. If not, you might want to rethink posting another thread like this. I really don't see how anything good could have possibly come out of this.

Ah shucks! Your right! Gee golly! LOL...no seriously. I should have kept my mouth shut. But my opinions arent just mine. There are many that have spoken to me about this ongoing national crisis on our board. Its just that I had the balls big enough to actually say something about on behalf of myself and everybody that has privately spoken to me about this.

Bros, lets drop this thread huh? What you say? Pals?

 

[Smokescreen]

Slash i think we both know what i meant when i used the term "re-hashers". If you've been here long enough you can spot a re-hasher from a mile away. I've been here for 3 years but may last accound got deleted for a 3 week inactivity, go figure. This bord is built by it's members and their input builds this boards database, but we get deleted unless we pay to acess our own info, the very info on which this bord now profits, but whatever.

You mean if I don't pay I'll get deleted? And I'll look like I started all over again?

 

[gregory]

You mean if I don't pay I'll get deleted? And I'll look like I started all over again?

Yep, just like me.

 

[Smokescreen]

I'm seriously thinking about NOT renewing my membership and instead just staying free. I seriously don't see the point of being a member. For what? For the search feature? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!!!

 

[SuperDawgy]

Ah shucks! Your right! Gee golly! LOL...no seriously. I should have kept my mouth shut. But my opinions arent just mine. There are many that have spoken to me about this ongoing national crisis on our board. Its just that I had the balls big enough to actually say something about on behalf of myself and everybody that has privately spoken to me about this.

Bros, lets drop this thread huh? What you say? Pals?

In that case maybe the "silent sector" should grow some gonads and speak up for themselves. Drop it? Consider it done.

 

[Smokescreen]

Drop

 

[tical]

Aren't you really on HRT because you couldn't recover from the abusive cycles you put yourself through, not your "acting" skills?


"I wouldn't take fire safety advice from a burn victim."

 

[Smokescreen]

Hey hey!!! You watch your mouth! We all agreed to drop this post. That abuse was many, many years ago. This wasn't anything recent I hope you know. Like I said, that was many years ago and I was taking advice from GUYS THAT THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL!!! LOL

I basically just stayed on for about 2 years. I didn't do any high doses...just never came off. When I did come off it was like for about a month, just to run HCG/Clomid. But then I would jump back on. From one month being off and running HCG/Clomid...I wans't aware that I was shut off. Not until I decided to really come off. Then that is when I realized ( from bloodwork ) that I was shut off.

Hey! I don't see you ripping on Mr. Jenetic dumbass! He too went through the same shit I went through. So go rip on him and leave me alone!

 

[Smokescreen]

Oh! One more thing...that is why when others ask me how to run gear and then come off and how to do PCT. I staight up tell them...your asking the wrong person. I don't cycle..I'm on all year round.

 

[macdaddy-1]

Carth........do you actuallly REALLY gain being on for that long?after the initial growth spurt at the beginning...what do you get from the rest of cycle.I wouldve thought all thats gonna happen is you wont lose anything and youll hold the strength gains?

 

[SuperDawgy]

Carth........do you actuallly REALLY gain being on for that long?after the initial growth spurt at the beginning...what do you get from the rest of cycle.I wouldve thought all thats gonna happen is you wont lose anything and youll hold the strength gains?

I'm not answering for Carth, but to answer your question...look at the pro's that stay on and grow year after year.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i chose never touched gear but i know it all, i am simply joking since carth has seen my pics and i am not a frickin newbie whatsoever..

 

[bw1]

i chose never touched gear but i know it all, i am simply joking since carth has seen my pics and i am not a frickin newbie whatsoever..

Hey quit pickin' on us newbie's

 

[Smokescreen]

Hey quit pickin' on us newbie's

LMFAO!!!

 

[liquidmuscle]

nice back double bi shot there bw1

 

[Smokescreen]

Colombiano! Wassup Papa?

 

[mlong23]

Carth, what do you do to get that thick look in the middle of your back. I do everything but seems like it's just growing half way down my back and down. If you know what I mean. My lower back growth like a weed and I dont even train it. But my middle upper back is just not.

I am not carth but to build a thick back, try some deadlifts, heavy bent rows.