time for my next cycle...

[nexus7]

I am currently doing a little research for my next cycle which will basically be my 1st TEST based cycle, as I have only done anabolics so far - I am planning to start it end of August

but did not really find much on test/primo cycles.

I was contemplating a Test enenthate /primo/anavar cycle with clen/clo post cycle.

dosages (in mg) would look roughly like this:

week-------prop--------enenth--------primo--------anavar
1-------------200--------500------------------------------------
2-------------200--------500------------------------------------
3--------------------------500------------------------------------
4--------------------------500-------------200----------25/day
5--------------------------250-------------200----------25/day
6--------------------------250-------------200----------25/day
7--------------------------250-------------200----------25/day
8--------------------------125-------------200----------25/day
9--------------------------125-------------200----------25/day

Arimidex @ 1/2 tab a day throughout and 3 weeks post cycle (to avoid high levels of post cycle estrogens) with clomid/clen...

Does anyone have experience with this kinda cycle?

any comments/suggestions?




OH and vexed: dont even dream about flaming me for some poor cycle design - I am just digging for some info...hehehe - I am sure you ll be the first to reply...LOL

 

[vexed]

I like the front loading he he he...

Why taper bro? just cut off!

I like the usage of the var and primo but i think you should run the test longer at 500 to at least week 8 and then start the primo var combo at week 6 after that is said and done, clomid therapy as usual!

Like stright no ice cubes huh frenchy? you know I love you and your girl better give me a lap dance I swear to fucking god!!!

 

[vexed]

I wasnt gonna flame you just about time your french ass tried some real drugs... uhhh how do you say lap dance in french? He he he... wait I should say it in german right?

 

[nexus7]

LOL vexed you crack me up!! thanks for the good info - keep us posted on your experiment by the way!!

 

[nexus7]

LAP DANCE?? dunno we dont have that kinda crap here...

 

[vexed]

My current experiment is just tren eq and dbol.. not much of an experiment but I will be hitting prop with some arimidex next week... hitting it hard!

Then I will do my experiment... shit I could do it at the same time but then it wouldnt be as good... Because the finding could be tarnished... and you know I aint going off gear again.. I talked with my woman and all is good again... So between this cycle and the next one will be dare i say it primo (he he he) and lots of var! then comes 12 amps of sustanon all together he he he.

Maybe then I can take up e2's slogan of oil storage...

 

[vexed]

LAP DANCE?? dunno we dont have that kinda crap here...

Come on man... I'll bring the camera again... we can show the xploits of the elite bros and their women... too bad elena wont be here... But then I wouldnt get a lap dance either...

 

[nexus7]

LOL - now that you explained what lap dance means - I understand...

 

[nexus7]

Thanks DCS, I havent decided how often to administrate myself the prop yet - as often as possible I will...
winnie instead of anavar? why?

 

[vexed]

tapering is good
tapering id good
tapering is good
you want all the extra test out of your system when you hit the clomid post cycle.

What the fuck are you talking about? You just contradict yourself. If you want the test out befor eclomid why not just drop off? especially if he changes the var/primo to run out after then start clomid...

Maybe the tren is kicking in me... But you are giving my lil buddy bad bad advice... And what signifigance would winny have? Why would he use that instead of var? Maybe next time you reply 5 time sin a row you will give some fucking reasons...

 

[arabianphoenix]

Hi nexus I also think that tapering is good.
Dropping off from testo all of a sudden is not good for your body as it could suffer from a testo unbalancing , reporting gains loss, a little depression in some cases,
tiredness, libido loss, and you'd remain so to speak with very little testo in your body (natural or exogenous).

Some use Susta 'cause it is a sort of auto tapering product given that it is a blend of 4 testo.

Also consider that you could use ALC to restor your body testo as it will naturally stimulate LH and FSH (use at least 2.5 gr day for 3 weeks)

 

[nexus7]

Also consider that you could use ALC to restor your body testo as it will naturally stimulate LH and FSH (use at least 2.5 gr day for 3 weeks)

thanks for the input,

I dont hold a high opinion of sust, for quite a few reasons, so I will be sticking with test enenthate, but I would like to know what you meant with "ALC"...

what is ALC?

 

[nexus7]

bumping for some opinions,

anyone?

 

[anabolic24/7]

I'm with vexed, no need to taper.

 

[nexus7]

Thanks anabolic 24/7...is that what worked best for you? I thought tappering was the best way to avoid post cycle muscle crash...

Ranger, I see you on the board...hehehe - whats your opinion

 

[anabolic24/7]

IMO

let the AS come out of your system quickly so that you can begin post cycle therapy. If you taper your just dragging it out. Yes, it has worked good for me in the past. My preference is not to come off, but thats another thread.

 

[nexus7]

ok, but....

I hear you 24/7 but if I let it drag out as opposed to letting it all out of my system so quickly I might be able to avoid a 'no test shock' to my system...although on the other hand, like vexed said: the anavar should take care of that...and minimise the risks...the arimidex too...

hm...shit this is a real dilemma! LOL

 

[anabolic24/7]

When you go "on", your natural test is suppressed. It does not matter if you taper, because as long as you have ANY AS in your system your natural test will be suppressed. It's not like it is fully suppressed, and then you cut your dose in half and now your body makes some test, then you cut it further and your body makes even more, it doesn't work that way. It's on or off. So by cutting your dose, your taking out the anabolic properties without increasing your natural test. All you have done is a longer cycle with smaller doses.
Your system has to be clear of all AS for the clomid to do it's work, even anavar. Anavar does not suppress test, but your test is already suppressed. You have to bring your natural test on line with clomid then you can do the anavar as a bridge.

 

[nexus7]

Thanks for the input 24/7...

 

[serge]

runt the test for at least eight weeks, that way you will actually build muscle that you can keep, i sugest to not pyramid, pick the amount of gear and stay on the in through out your cycle, for last two weeks switch over to fast acting gear, after your last shot run clomids for 2-3 weeks

 

[arabianphoenix]

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Originally posted by arabianphoenix
Also consider that you could use ALC to restor your body testo as it will naturally stimulate LH and FSH (use at least 2.5 gr day for 3 weeks)


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thanks for the input,

I dont hold a high opinion of sust, for quite a few reasons, so I will be sticking with test enenthate, but I would like to know what you meant with "ALC"...

what is ALC?


Hi nexus ALC is the acronym for Acetil Levo Carnitine,
you're in Italy now you could finf it over te counter, brand name Branigen or Nicetile. There are also a lot of supplement.
It's known and used to restore natural testo but it has lipolitic effects as well. It's not a drug it's a supplement also used by natural bb to get the same advantages.

I partially agree with 24/7, but I do not like the bridging theory about Anavar (if I got what he means) youhave to be on or off the AS.
Notwithstanding if you taper while going on with clomid and ALC I think you can avoid system testo shock, keeping on feeling hormonally balanced, avoiding to lose
gains, getting sick like the typical flu and so on.Tapering doesn't mean to me you'll lose the anabolic effect, it means that you end your cycle avoiding shocks.

Cheers

 

[nexus7]

Thanks to all of ya for the imput - really appreciated...
anymore opinions wre most welcome though...