Thoughs on next Cycle

[Ezekiel]

Still on 1st cycle now, but I can get my stuff for my next cycle @ wholesale so I am going to jump on it now..

Current Cyc. looks like this:
wk. 1-10 Test E 500mg
wk. 1-4 Dbol 30mg ed
wk. 1-10 Armidex .25 eod
wk.3-10 HCG 250iu 2 x a week

PCT:
wks 12-16 PP's Test Recovery
wk. 12-16 Nolv. 20mg ed

Ok now onto what I am thinking of going w/

wk. 1-10 500mg Test Cyp
wk. 1-4 50mg dbol
wk. 1-9 300mg Deca
wk. 1-10 Armidex .25 eod
wk.3-10 HCG 250iu 2 x a week

I realize it's light on the Deca, but only my 2nd cycle and I'm not in a race

Thoughts from the good bros?

 

[HAYEZ]

yes test 1-12
deca 1-10

 

[the.gladiator1987]

whats hayez said

i dont think youll nee that much dbol either,i tried that once and my appetiote went to shit, but pumps were amazing. Still cant grow if you cant eat though

Hows your cycle now lookin? how are the gains?

 

[Ezekiel]

whats hayez said

i dont think youll nee that much dbol either,i tried that once and my appetiote went to shit, but pumps were amazing. Still cant grow if you cant eat though

Hows your cycle now lookin? how are the gains?

Strength gains are crazy but I am only on the end of week two..

Arse hurts from the shots though Started on my delts, They hurt for a few days but, the 1st one in the arse is killing me lol

Thx for the advice boys..

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Strength gains are crazy but I am only on the end of week two..

Arse hurts from the shots though Started on my delts, They hurt for a few days but, the 1st one in the arse is killing me lol

Thx for the advice boys..

Damn you injecting all 500mg?

Im about to do a test/dbol/winny cycle so just wondering how its goin so far, sounds good! Cant wait for mine, what supps you takin?

 

[Ezekiel]

Damn you injecting all 500mg?

Im about to do a test/dbol/winny cycle so just wondering how its goin so far, sounds good! Cant wait for mine, what supps you takin?

God no! Way to chicken S**T for that

2 shots a week...

Everyday:
3 protien shakes
Krill oil
Calcium
Vit C
Vit B6
Glucosimine *spelling
Multi Vit.
BCAA's

 

[the.gladiator1987]

God no! Way to chicken S**T for that

2 shots a week...

Everyday:
3 protien shakes
Krill oil
Calcium
Vit C
Vit B6
Glucosimine *spelling
Multi Vit.
BCAA's

Ok sick, looks good bro!

Anyway yea your second cycle looks good to go, perfect bread and butter bulk stack.

 

[hurricane]

yes test 1-12
deca 1-10

+1
could drop the dbol to 40mg a week but 50 is workable

 

[Ezekiel]

Thx everyone for your input...

It's soooo great to be able to get some input w/ out all the flaming and what not. Lucky for you boys I'm already married.. lol

Blessings,

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Thx everyone for your input...

It's soooo great to be able to get some input w/ out all the flaming and what not. Lucky for you boys I'm already married.. lol

Blessings,

Im gettin married in june haha, gl with the cycle or two!

 

[Unit 2005]

Drop the dbol to 30mg, you wont need 40 or 50mg. Dont use any anti estrogens unless you need to, they reduce gains. Other than that what others have already said.

 

[Ezekiel]

Drop the dbol to 30mg, you wont need 40 or 50mg. Dont use any anti estrogens unless you need to, they reduce gains. Other than that what others have already said.

RGR... I can get the dbol in 25mg caps so I might just stick to 25mg ed.

Should the pct for this cycle be the same as my current one?

start 2 wks after last test shot or 1 wk after?
nolv and PP's Test recovery + HCG? for 4 wks?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

start 2 weeks after

pps test recovery and hcg would be good, might want to make it 8 weeks if you dont run HCG throughout cycle.

IDk about nolva, i know its not to be used in conjuction with deca but idk about PCT i think ur fine with it

 

[Unit 2005]

25mg is enough, if you really want to do 50mg then you can, theres no law, the gains will be better but you run the risk of sides. Your call. Personally wouldnt bother using HCG throughout cycle, save it for post cycle. Have'nt got a clue what PP test recovery is (i just hope it is not another supplement!) - stick with the tried and tested pct drugs if i were you.

 

[Ezekiel]

25mg is enough, if you really want to do 50mg then you can, theres no law, the gains will be better but you run the risk of sides. Your call. Personally wouldnt bother using HCG throughout cycle, save it for post cycle. Have'nt got a clue what PP test recovery is (i just hope it is not another supplement!) - stick with the tried and tested pct drugs if i were you.

Thx for your input!

You're right.. I'm just going to stick w/ 25mg a day.

You don't don't like HCG during cycle? Why not? Why do you prefere it Post Cycle?

Cheers.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Why not use both for post cycle?

Primordialperformance.com sustain alpha
clomid


HCG doesnt have to be ran but it makes for an easier recovery, which is imo the thing people dont pay enough atention too. I have a safer than sorry view on PCT though, id rather run plenty than barely enough

 

[Olivelawn]

This is scary at best.

Here is what I would do and why. You can then make your own decisions based off of all of the contained information. I'm not slamming you just concerned. Take it as constructive criticism.

Your PCT for this cycle:
The nolva can be used. The PP stuff never worked for me and I crashed so hard it took a long time to get back. I lost all of my gains and had NO libido for weeks. If you're going to use it you're better off doing it with the following:

-Day after last injection 1000iu's HCG for five consecutive days (even if you were running it on cycle still do this). 10 days after last injection run clomid at 100mg for the first 10 days and then 50mg for and additional 20. Nolva should be done at the same time as clomid, first two weeks at 40mg per day and then 20mg per day for the remainder of the following four weeks.

For whatever reason people on here are saying "have _____on hand in case of gyno" or "an A/I will hinder your gains" bullshit. Use it during cycle and throughout PCT. You don't want estrogen rebound now do you? I would rather you run aromasin. It's just a personal preference. If the a-dex is working for you then use it.

You need cabergoline or pramipexole. If you run cabergoline dose it at .5mg E3D for progesterone. Run it three weeks after you drop the deca. If you run pramipexole you will need to dose it differently. .25mg the first week, .50 the second, and no more than .75mg for the dose you are running. It is extremely powerful.

If you like doing the hcg twice a week continue on. Good luck.

 

[Ezekiel]

Why not use both for post cycle?

Primordialperformance.com sustain alpha
clomid


HCG doesnt have to be ran but it makes for an easier recovery, which is imo the thing people dont pay enough atention too. I have a safer than sorry view on PCT though, id rather run plenty than barely enough

Yes safe is good...

I think i'll go w/ the Nolv, PP's Test Recovery and HCG.

I am nervous about using just the Test Recovery Stack by itself as I haven't seen anyone post their blood work to verify it. Tht being said; many ppl are saying it is good enough. I figure using it in conjunction w/ standard pct certainly wont hurt.

I am waiting on Nelson to answer a question re: PCT on another thread. When he gets back to me I'' let you know what he said.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Actually honestly i wouldnt take a OTC PCT unless it was a really mild cycle.

Eric from primordial performance actually recommends his testosterone recovery stack along with clomid/nolva. 25mg clomid/10mgnolva.

 

[Ahooligan]

This is scary at best.

Here is what I would do and why. You can then make your own decisions based off of all of the contained information. I'm not slamming you just concerned. Take it as constructive criticism.

Your PCT for this cycle:
The nolva can be used. The PP stuff never worked for me and I crashed so hard it took a long time to get back. I lost all of my gains and had NO libido for weeks. If you're going to use it you're better off doing it with the following:

-Day after last injection 1000iu's HCG for five consecutive days (even if you were running it on cycle still do this). 10 days after last injection run clomid at 100mg for the first 10 days and then 50mg for and additional 20. Nolva should be done at the same time as clomid, first two weeks at 40mg per day and then 20mg per day for the remainder of the following four weeks.

For whatever reason people on here are saying "have _____on hand in case of gyno" or "an A/I will hinder your gains" bullshit. Use it during cycle and throughout PCT. You don't want estrogen rebound now do you? I would rather you run aromasin. It's just a personal preference. If the a-dex is working for you then use it.

You need cabergoline or pramipexole. If you run cabergoline dose it at .5mg E3D for progesterone. Run it three weeks after you drop the deca. If you run pramipexole you will need to dose it differently. .25mg the first week, .50 the second, and no more than .75mg for the dose you are running. It is extremely powerful.

If you like doing the hcg twice a week continue on. Good luck.

Wow. This is the first PCT that acutally makes sense...and is pretty close to what i have found to work. I am not sure about OTC stuff...dont go into a run fight with a knife.