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fivefold

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Ok, in order to answer this question, first you need to download this PDF file: http://www.letcoinc.com/documents/2006 catalog.pdf

This is a order catalog for US pharmacies to order supplies and chemicals out of. It is legit. Now I have a friend who works at a local custom comounding pharmacy that makes custom creams and things of that nature with hormones and other medications. He grabbed 50 grams of this white powder and photocopied the container it came out of. #TES-001. If you look at page 20 on the PDF file, it gives a description. Can anyone help me figure out what kind of Test this is? I've got BB and BA and sterile water.... How should I mix this up to use? Thanks K for any an help.
 
not sure, but it probably does not have an ester...like test suspension.
like i said, not sure
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I'm guessing suspension as well, since prop is listed below and I did a google search for "Testosterone Micronized USP" and everything that comes up is prop.... I'm no powder expert.... I know suspension and winstrol are micronized for sure
 
TES-001 is just Test base- no ester, which makes sense because you would not want an ester if you are compounding it into a cream or gel. So you can make injectable suspension out of it, or add it to phlogel, etc to make a lotion.
 
fivefold said:
Ok, in order to answer this question, first you need to download this PDF file: http://www.letcoinc.com/documents/2006 catalog.pdf

This is a order catalog for US pharmacies to order supplies and chemicals out of. It is legit. Now I have a friend who works at a local custom comounding pharmacy that makes custom creams and things of that nature with hormones and other medications. He grabbed 50 grams of this white powder and photocopied the container it came out of. #TES-001. If you look at page 20 on the PDF file, it gives a description. Can anyone help me figure out what kind of Test this is? I've got BB and BA and sterile water.... How should I mix this up to use? Thanks K for any an help.
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Its free testosterone base.

It says "Solubility: Water(I)" I means insoluble
Youll need oil bro, its hard to properly make a homebrewed suspension.
 
big_boy_1 said:
Its free testosterone base.

It says "Solubility: Water(I)" I means insoluble
Youll need oil bro, its hard to properly make a homebrewed suspension.
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Yeah, it is insoluble in water, but not in alchohol. I have BA an BB. I also have Bacteriostatic water which is 0.9% BA and Sterile Water... So it should mix in. Has anyone used Test Suspension before? How do you inject it? I.M.? or subcutaneous or what? Any other comments?
 
yea like if you had 50 grams of test powder you wouldnt try snorting that shit to figure out how it worked :)
 
Why do I even come back to this fucking place... Do you know how to inject it C3? Do you know how to homebrew powders? Instead of telling me I am "way over my head", why not enlighten me, share some knowledge, point to a link... Fuck... Where is Mr. X?
 
thats actually pretty interesting to me and hella cheap!! i hope you post your experiment results when your done
 
Ohh. Look at the help I found on anabolex.com:

TNE suspention 75mg/ml
Supplies needed
1.5 Grams TNE powder
2 .22um whatman filter
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga Pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.4 ml Benzyl Alcohol (2%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)***Trust me on this***
15.875 ml Distilled water

1. Add your BB and PS80 to your beaker (10ml vial) with your TNE powder and heat until it is in liquid form.

2. reduce heat enough to keep it liquid (med low temp on a hot plate) ***note: you must keep it on heat so it does not crash while filtering into the distilled water***

3 Put .4 ml BA and 15.875 ml distilled water in your 20ml vile.

4. Most of you will prefer to filter the BB/PS80/TNE mix which it great, but I prefer just to use a glass dropper to slowly drop it into the water 1ml at a time (BECAUSE GLASS WILL NOT MELT IN YOUR HAND) However, if you want to filter the concentrate use a .45um whatman filter and only do 1 ml at a time.

5. slowly add your BB/PS80/TNE mixture to your water 1 ml at a time, and after every ml you add put the stopper on the vile and shake vigerously. REMEMBER ONE ML AT A TIME. **THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT**

by the time you're done it should be milky white and perfect, with this method it won't clump or seperate to the bottom like it did with PEG. The TNE will stay milky and completely seperated and will go through a 30ga by 1/2" slin pin like pure water with no clogging and no pain at all!
 
fivefold said:
Ohh. Look at the help I found on anabolex.com:

TNE suspention 75mg/ml
Supplies needed
1.5 Grams TNE powder
2 .22um whatman filter
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga Pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.4 ml Benzyl Alcohol (2%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)***Trust me on this***
15.875 ml Distilled water

1. Add your BB and PS80 to your beaker (10ml vial) with your TNE powder and heat until it is in liquid form.

2. reduce heat enough to keep it liquid (med low temp on a hot plate) ***note: you must keep it on heat so it does not crash while filtering into the distilled water***

3 Put .4 ml BA and 15.875 ml distilled water in your 20ml vile.

4. Most of you will prefer to filter the BB/PS80/TNE mix which it great, but I prefer just to use a glass dropper to slowly drop it into the water 1ml at a time (BECAUSE GLASS WILL NOT MELT IN YOUR HAND) However, if you want to filter the concentrate use a .45um whatman filter and only do 1 ml at a time.

5. slowly add your BB/PS80/TNE mixture to your water 1 ml at a time, and after every ml you add put the stopper on the vile and shake vigerously. REMEMBER ONE ML AT A TIME. **THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT**

by the time you're done it should be milky white and perfect, with this method it won't clump or seperate to the bottom like it did with PEG. The TNE will stay milky and completely seperated and will go through a 30ga by 1/2" slin pin like pure water with no clogging and no pain at all!
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Yeah, that looks like A LOT of fun to try to save $25 and possibly fuck up all the powder.. Listen to these people, they're not busting you're balls they are being straight up with you.. If I were you I'd get soe BA and some sesame oil and make an test base oil injectible.. MUUUUUCH easier than all that shit..

If you do decide to try it, I'd be interested to hear how it turned out..
T-Matt
 
fivefold said:
Why do I even come back to this fucking place... Do you know how to inject it C3? Do you know how to homebrew powders? Instead of telling me I am "way over my head", why not enlighten me, share some knowledge, point to a link... Fuck... Where is Mr. X?
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He is saying he doesn't think you are ready to make your own products if you don't know how to inject the substance. Maybe he should have told you if he knows. I don't think that there are any steroids out there that are not IM. A quick search on steroid.com or some other site will usually breakdown how often and how much to inject per week of what ever you are wanting to use.
 
T-Matt said:
Yeah, that looks like A LOT of fun to try to save $25 and possibly fuck up all the powder.. Listen to these people, they're not busting you're balls they are being straight up with you.. If I were you I'd get soe BA and some sesame oil and make an test base oil injectible.. MUUUUUCH easier than all that shit..

If you do decide to try it, I'd be interested to hear how it turned out..
T-Matt
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Well for one TNE (Testosterone No Ester) is not only not esterified, its not even dissolved in oil the way esters are (Such as Cyp,E, Prop ect...). Instead it is an aqueous suspension, much like the injectable forms of Winstrol/Stromba (stanazolol). Since a steroid, made of cholesterol, is somewhat lipophillic, it does not readily dissolve in water either. It is dissolved in BA and then added to the water... You can't just add this type of test to some sesame oil bro, it's not that easy... But I do hope it works, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks to all those who helped...
 
fivefold said:
Well for one TNE (Testosterone No Ester) is not only not esterified, its not even dissolved in oil the way esters are (Such as Cyp,E, Prop ect...). Instead it is an aqueous suspension, much like the injectable forms of Winstrol/Stromba (stanazolol). Since a steroid, made of cholesterol, is somewhat lipophillic, it does not readily dissolve in water either. It is dissolved in BA and then added to the water... You can't just add this type of test to some sesame oil bro, it's not that easy... But I do hope it works, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks to all those who helped...
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Hmmm.. ok.. cool man.. All I'm saying is that I've seen TestNE in oil before.. I'm actually curious as to how it is made..

T-Matt
 
fivefold said:
Why do I even come back to this fucking place... Do you know how to inject it C3? Do you know how to homebrew powders? Instead of telling me I am "way over my head", why not enlighten me, share some knowledge, point to a link... Fuck... Where is Mr. X?
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I'm not bashing you but I think that you should wait on doing home brewing for now. You're on the right track researching. But give yourself ample time before you actually inject that which you make. Be careful bro and good luck.
 
I made some Tren once - it was fun. I made it w/ a buddy on a Friday night - great way to pass the time.

I can buy it pretty cheap, so for me, it was not even worth screwing w/.

I looked over the product list fromt he above link and I do not think the sell anything I can;t get already made for just about the same price - I did see ketamine, but I am not so into that type stuff.
 
I wasn't trying to be a prick. Home brewing can be cheap and fun. But if you mess something up, you can end up with anything from a waste of money or extremely painful shots or something bad like an abcess. Just take your time and keep doing research. There's a home brewing forum right here on elite, check there. It isn't visited often but there is some older good information and there's also other sites you could check.

And yes, of course you need to inject IM. It just worried me to read something like that and then the question on making a product. We tend to look out for each other here. A lot of other boards talk smack on elite, but these are some of the best people who will do anything to help you out. I was just trying to look out for another bro in this game. Good luck and please take time with this and do research. Patience is the name of the game in the home brew world.
 
mlong23 said:
Unless you are cutting your costs about 1/2, then I wouldn't worry about making it.
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A vial of Home brewed is about $3.00 after all is said and done. So he'll be saving alot more than 1/2 price.

Suspension is usually more expensive than other compounds as well, so he quest is more than worth it.
 
fivefold said:
Yeah, it is insoluble in water, but not in alchohol. I have BA an BB. I also have Bacteriostatic water which is 0.9% BA and Sterile Water... So it should mix in. Has anyone used Test Suspension before? How do you inject it? I.M.? or subcutaneous or what? Any other comments?
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Inject right into the muscle.. Im using 100mg/ed right now, I love the stuff! Takes alot of practice to homebrew suspension. Not of the easier ones to do.
 
Thanks for the help guys, I ordered all my supplies and am now just waiting to get them in. I found several methods of brewing it up and most are very similar, as soon as I get it in, I will cook it all up and let you all know how it goes. The thing is, the powder is free for me and US pharmacy grade, because my friend litterally steals it from the pharmacy he works for, so I basically will only have to pay for the solvents and and vials, some of those (The sterile water, bacteriostatic water, syringes, needles, filters ect...) I get from the hospital I work at for free. All in all, this is very very cheap, I can actually make money if I decide to sale some to my friends fore cheap. I'll let yall know how it goes...
 
fivefold said:
Thanks for the help guys, I ordered all my supplies and am now just waiting to get them in. I found several methods of brewing it up and most are very similar, as soon as I get it in, I will cook it all up and let you all know how it goes. The thing is, the powder is free for me and US pharmacy grade, because my friend litterally steals it from the pharmacy he works for, so I basically will only have to pay for the solvents and and vials, some of those (The sterile water, bacteriostatic water, syringes, needles, filters ect...) I get from the hospital I work at for free. All in all, this is very very cheap, I can actually make money if I decide to sale some to my friends fore cheap. I'll let yall know how it goes...
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good luck bro
 
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