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This cycle is not for me but a made up one for educational use however could be a possible one in the near future......I am trying to learn with the search engine and other resources on the most EFFICIENT way to KEEP GAINS and promote LH Production after losing endogenous levels....Would a cycle like this help keep great gains....Where Should clomids be thrown in to help keep the most gains...please note i assumed that primobolan would help keep gains also!!

Week**Dballs**Enanthate**Deca**Primobolan**HCG
1--------25mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
2--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
3--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
4--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
5--------25mgs---750mgs----400mgs-----------------2500IU
6-------------------750mgs----400mgs--------------------------
7-------------------750mgs----400mgs--------------------------
8-------------------750mgs----400mgs--------------------------
9-------------------500mgs----------------200mgs-----2500IU
10-----------------500mgs----------------200mgs---------------
11-----------------500mgs----------------200mgs---------------
12-----------------500mgs----------------200mgs---------------
13-------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
14-------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
15--------100mgs Clomid ED-----------200mgs------5000IU
16--------100mgs Clomid ED-----------200mgs---------------
17--------50mgs Clomid ED-----------200mgs---------------
18--------50mgs Clomid ED------------200mgs---------------
19------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
20------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
21------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
22------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
23------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
24------------------------------------------200mgs---------------

-The End

Now mods? Was this cycle planned out perfectly for an individual to keep the most gains possible?? i figured i could run the primobolan through along with clom therapy because primo doesn't effect endogenous levels if i am correct? would i be better getting off everything using clom therapy then getttin back on primo if i were to do this cycle??

Sorry for inconvenience but i want to see if my education has gotten better among AS and want to be ready to plan out a perfect cycle when its time for me to juice again..thanks guys and appreciate all your help!
 
please note that I also would recommend running proviron starting day 1 (instead of arimidex) but have nolvadex on hand also just incase.... would that be good aso?
 
you will need clomid at the end of your primo. you're running your primo past your clomid therapy, or are you bridging with that into another cycle?
 
i would be running primo past clomid therapy with the thought of trying to keep the most gains possible, but guess not huh? should i just cut out the primo after week 12 and only stay on for 4 weeks after Deca? I am trying to keep most gains as possible basically considering i am ganna do this....thanks
 
i like all involved i think my problem is the ml are not spaced out enough. I tend to go 100-200 ml higher each week until week 8 than start cutting abck. i start gradual and increase it every week. That just me though. And proviron will make ya so fucking horny it unreal.
 
TO ULTRAGAINS: ACCORDING TO CHART ABOVE I SHOULD GO WITH CYCLE AS PLANNED TO WEEK 14 AND CUT OUT EVERYTHING ELSE? (OF COURSE CONTINUING CLOMID THERAPY AT WEEK 15 (2 WEEKS AFTER TEST SHOT?).
 
would you keep more gains at 8 weeks or 12 weeks? how about front loading such as shooting 1 gram first week then continue as pllaned?? is it also good to mix test...sorry for all these questions but dont want to clog up the board with all of these in several posts....
 
Other than not understanding what you want, I would change to the following:

Kill the hcg wks 5, 9 & 15, use only wks 17 & 18, you really only need hcg at the end of cycle. FOllow the hcg with a few weeks of clomid only.

Kill the dbol wks 15 - 18, this makes no sense as it will cause body to shut down natural test.

Unless you just want to bridge into another cycle, there is no need to run the primo so long, end it wk 17. If you're bridging, no need for the hcg anyway.

YOu need to understand that as long as you're on even light amounts of anything on the back side of a cycle, you will not loose gains. Your body goes into test depletion only after you stop your cycle. The duration of your test will allow you to come off slowly and remain elevated with the primo. IMO there is no need to use hcg to stimulate mid cycle. SOme of what you're reading (WAR) is overkill.

BPP
 
so basically by continuing test week 9-12 at a lower dose along with the primo at a low dose allows me to come down slower instead of totally shutting down cycle after week 8 allowing me to recover better, correct? so adding an extra 4 weeks with a lower dosage is better then going strong for 8 weeks?
 
yo bro, i always stress the point of not using excessive amounts of test stay in the range of 200-400wk and only for 6 wks the primos at 200mg/wk will help you keep most of your gains you can also add anavar to the bridging cycle due to its not conversion of estrogen it will also harden up whatever gains youve made.
 
There is nothing wrong with the dosages, but only use the dbol at the beginning. I used it once from mid cycle to end (it worked well) Keep the test at 750mg and I would do as Bigpp says. I would also not bridge for more than 6 weeks. 24 weeks on is a bit much imo.

Keeping gains is relativistic. It depends on age, diet, genetics, etc. Until you try it you won't know.
 
Week**Dballs**Enanthate**Deca**Primobolan Depot-
1--------25mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
2--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
3--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
4--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
5--------25mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
6-------------------750mgs----400mgs--------------------------
7-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
8-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
9-------------------500mgs----------------300mgs--------------
10-----------------500mgs----------------300mgs---------------
11-----------------500mgs----------------300mgs---------------
12-----------------500mgs----------------300mgs---------------
13-------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
14-------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
15--------300mgs Clomid first day / 100mgs ED------------
16--------100mgs Clomid ED------------------------------------
17--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
18--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------

Please not that Proviron would be takin at 25mgs starting day 1 till last day of day 14...Also Nolvadex will be on hand just in case......

according to several replies and other posts I have concluded this cycle to be the best for keeping gains and recieving the most out of it...what do yuo guys think now?? especially you ultragainz and mustang18?
 
Actually better yet, would this look better after reading a post on front loading...

Week**Dballs**Enanthate**Deca**Primobolan Depot-
1--------25mgs--1000mgs----400mgs-------------------------
2--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
3--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
4--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
5--------25mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
6-------------------750mgs----400mgs--------------------------
7-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
8-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
9-------------------500mgs----------------300mgs--------------
10-----------------500mgs----------------300mgs---------------
11-----------------500mgs----------------300mgs---------------
12-----------------250mgs----------------200mgs---------------
13-------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
14-------------------------------------------200mgs---------------
15--------300mgs Clomid first day / 100mgs ED------------
16--------100mgs Clomid ED------------------------------------
17--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
18--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
 
I wouldn't run the Enanthate past week 10 and I would run my Deca till week 10. 8 weeks of Deca IMO is cutting yourself short.
 
whats your reason for this Body? i didn't want to stay on Deca more then 8 weeks due to Deca Dick, but mainly i feel like switchin to primo because i feel like it would be the best way to come off and lighter on the system for keeping most gains...originally i was planning on only doing an 8 week cycle anyways to begin with so by coming off with Primo and lowering test i should keep more i assume??
 
Try this:

Week**Dbol**Enanthate**EQ****Primobolan Depot-
1--------30mgs--1000mgs----400mgs-------------------------
2--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
3--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
4--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
5--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
6-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
7-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
8-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
9-------------------500mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
10-----------------500mgs-----400mgs--300mgs--------------
11-------------------------------------------300mgs---------------
12-------------------------------------------300mgs---------------
13-------------------------------------------------------------------
14-------------------------------------------------------------------
15--------300mgs Clomid first day / 100mgs ED------------
16--------100mgs Clomid ED------------------------------------
17--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
18--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
 
My reasoning is that you won't even feel the effects of the Deca until mid week 4 so why only run it for additional 4 weeks. With any AS that is a slow ester I run it for atleast 10 weeks.

With all that Test if you get Deca Dick you either need to kick the crap out of your source or go see the doctor about Viagra.

I would use the primo still just overlap it an extra two weeks w/ the deca or just bump it down two weeks.

Also with all that Enanthate I would invest in a bottle of Liquidex. It will stop you from growing tits and retaining all that water with the Enanthate.
 
Hacker said:
Try this:

Week**Dbol**Enanthate**EQ****Primobolan Depot-
1--------30mgs--1000mgs----400mgs-------------------------
2--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
3--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
4--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
5--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
6-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
7-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
8-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
9-------------------500mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
10-----------------500mgs-----400mgs--300mgs--------------
11-------------------------------------------300mgs---------------
12-------------------------------------------300mgs---------------
13-------------------------------------------------------------------
14-------------------------------------------------------------------
15--------300mgs Clomid first day / 100mgs ED------------
16--------100mgs Clomid ED------------------------------------
17--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
18--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
Click to expand...

this is much better, except i would up the dbols a little
 
ok thanks guys, i think i will take your advice on that, but can i keep the Deca instead of the EQ?? Also, i thought you were supposed to start clomids after 2 weeks of your last test shot regardless to what else your taking considering its not test?
 
Is it ok if i do it like this Conan?

Week**Dbol**Enanthate**Deca***Primobolan Depot-
1--------30mgs--1000mgs----400mgs-------------------------
2--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
3--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
4--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs-------------------------
5--------30mgs---750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
6-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
7-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
8-------------------750mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
9-------------------500mgs----400mgs--300mgs--------------
10-----------------500mgs-----400mgs--300mgs--------------
11-------------------------------------------300mgs---------------
12-------------------------------------------300mgs---------------
13-------------------------------------------------------------------
14-------------------------------------------------------------------
15--------300mgs Clomid first day / 100mgs ED------------
16--------100mgs Clomid ED------------------------------------
17--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
18--------50mgs Clomid ED-------------------------------------
 
Yes you can keep the Deca. There is an on going battle between EQ supporters and Deca supporters. It is totally your decision. I would find out which of each I could get and then make my decision based upon the legitimacy of the item, the quality of the producer of each, and price.
 
LUVS2JUICE said:
ok thanks guys, i think i will take your advice on that, but can i keep the Deca instead of the EQ?? Also, i thought you were supposed to start clomids after 2 weeks of your last test shot regardless to what else your taking considering its not test?
Click to expand...

Yes, you can keep the deca. Starting clomid all depends on what you're taking and considering the esters. The test and deca will still be active for at least 3 weeks after your last injection. Primo has a long ester attached to it so you need 3 weeks for it to clear. Bottom line is, you don't want to start clomid while the AAS is still suppressing your hpta.
 
so even if test is still out of your system and endogenous levels are probably still dropping, its not worth starting till the lighter steroids are also out of yoru system to your sayin? I cant throw in 200mgs of primo at like week 13 and just keep one week off then start clom therapy in which by week 17 i will still have 2 more weeks left of clomid? or just stick to what i have above? thanks guys, your help is very much appreciated!
 
What we're saying is don't start your Clomid until 3 weeks form your last injection of Primo. If you want to know why look at Hackers post above.

You should change your name to LUVS2ASKQUESTIONS!!
(No Offense Meant)
 
sorry for asking so many questions but the mroe questions i ask, the more i become educated and safer!!! your information is helping me a lot so be thankfull that i appreciate your help very much..thanks!!!
 
Don't be sorry...

Ask away. I'm glad I can answer some of your questions. And I got the answers from asking questions.
 
Actually body, i got one more question for you, lol..sorry again...how about getting 2 kits of GH and doing 4IU 5 days on 2 days off till week 18?? how does that sound now?
 
Drop the Deca, and replace it with EQ....Deca will drop HPTA very quickly and keep it down for a good length of time. Eq however, will only aromatize into a simple estrogen, and clomid and Nolva will combat any sides associated with it.

Deca on the other hand can bind to, and activate the Progestin recepters, which brings into play another totally different side. If this be the case, you now need Winny, or Ru-486. Hence the added price of the cycle. Eq is by far cheaper than Deca, and will work better with little or no water retention....

Now you little fuck-nut....You've asked a million questions for over a year....either do your damn cycle or keep researching....:D

You are truly amazing Luvs....You truly are...:fro:

Ranger
 
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