About muscle-tech, I have used Nortesten for two years now and I must say this stuff honestly does work for me. Can it be because I am a pretty lean person and it is better suited for me? I don't really know but I can't lie about it, my bench usually goes up about 40 pounds when I am on it. This year I will do 2, 2 months cycle. I expect the same results if not better due to the fact that in the past I have only used it for two months. Whatever the reason I guess some things are suited better for certain people. One thing that I must agree on is that Muscle-tech should not be aloud to censor peoples OPINIONS!!!! If someone does not like one of their products they have every right to say so in whatever manner they want due to the fact that we live in the GREAT OLD USA!!! So even though my opinion may be a good one I tell all of you hater please keep hating because it is your RIGHT to do so. Peace.