This is a fucked up disturbing video. If you still shop at J.Crew after this...

[beefcake28]

agreed....
since when do people raise animals and abuse them break their legs,paws,ribs, etc so we could eat them??? i am sorry been on many farms and not one do they treat the animal terrible....they treat them as if they are a family pet.
people are stealing other peoples pets, treating them terrible, all so that some high class wanna be broad can look nice!!! that is purely disgusting and not needed...if buying a fur coat (knowing what these animals had to go through) is what it takes to make you think higher of yourself and your yuppie ways then you are sick...
yes NYCgirl we eat animals but they are not treated wrong...what about sheep for cotton? we use their fur yet do we brutilize them???? NO

I know this is irrelevant to the discussion, but since when does cotton come from sheep??

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I never understood how these threads get so long, or how some people can hold such close-minded and bigoted opinions. Just like religious threads.

You're doing the same thing from a different perspective. But let's pretend you're not, just to keep the thread interesting.

Morals -- what is "right" -- is dictated by the society.

No, it's not. "Society" as an entity does not accrue any special abilities or rights or responsibilities - it is just a collection of individuals. Surely you'd agree that individuals in groups large and small are capable of being completely wrongheaded, incorrect and just plain stupid. Societies of massive brutality have existed; brutality was what the society dictated, and the members did not disappoint. At no point was it right merely because it was the dictate of society. At that point, you're essentially arguing either (1) might makes right or (2) conformity is good. Either is laughable.

Society might dictate what is required for continued acceptance, but at no point does that imply right-ness.

There does not exist any universal moral "right" or "wrong". People argue this stuff like it's a unique or special issue, eg. the topic of this thread, but in reality it's a quite broad category in philosophy that's been argued for millenia.

You're essentially saying "everything is relative". But if you believe that, then relativism is actually an absolute...so everything is not relative.

The dedicated protester is just as "right" as the fur-wearing meat eater.

HTH

By definiton, then, just as wrong.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I think it comes from EMPATHY...

We could also use this justification to machine gun those trapped in new orleans after katrina.

We could have had empathy for them (end the suffering) and empathy for the taxpayers (dead people don't cost much).

I'm with samoth on this one.

 

[redguru]

I know this is irrelevant to the discussion, but since when does cotton come from sheep??

I guess it could indirectly if they are forced to browse on cotton.

 

[Gambino]

I know this is irrelevant to the discussion, but since when does cotton come from sheep??

lmao

wool comes from sheep angel, cotton is a plant

 

[dognutz]

Typical dirty asians, they are scumbags, don't think that joke about eating cats and dogs at a chinese restaurant isn't true. THey are evil people that do not care about life. Hell, they kill their own people in China if you have a girl. Fuck the dirty scumbag asians.

Remember Pearl Harbor, they were our ally then too. They will fuck their own mother to get ahead.

 

[Gambino]

Typical dirty asians, they are scumbags, don't think that joke about eating cats and dogs at a chinese restaurant isn't true. THey are evil people that do not care about life. Hell, they kill their own people in China if you have a girl. Fuck the dirty scumbag asians.

Remember Pearl Harbor, they were our ally then too. They will fuck their own mother to get ahead.

that is some ignorant shit right there. the asian peeps i know are some of the best humans i have ever met. you get bombed bitch

 

[Deterass]

that is some ignorant shit right there. the asian peeps i know are some of the best humans i have ever met.

The chicks you pay from the massage parlor don't count orb.

 

[StickFigure]

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=jcruel_china_dog&Player=wm&speed=_med

It's about time they found a good use for cats!

 

[HumorMe]

I know this is irrelevant to the discussion, but since when does cotton come from sheep??

That one slipped under the radar until you pointed it out.

I had to put it in my signature....lol

K to you.