Nelson Montana said:Horseshit.
nydj66 said:There is no doubt that children are reaching puberty at an earlier age now than they ever have before. You can make a good argument that it's from trenbolone and estrogen in beef.
Others say that it's more access to food and the childhood obesity epidimic that's responsible for the earlier puberty and that by the time we eat hormone treated beef the compounds have broken down to the point where they have no effect.
My family eats organic, grass-fed beef (and milk) because we can afford it and it's better safe than sorry.
hstern said:what about this then:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/3515407.stm
Unless you know for a fact that no baseball players take tren then what the hell sense does that make?Nelson Montana said:First of all, it's girls who are reaching puberty sooner and that's from all the phytoestrogens -- soy mostly. Kids in general are bigger because the baby boomers were the first generation to take viamins and they were larger and consequently their kids are larger.
They don't give cattle anabolic androgenic steroids like the ones baseball players take! that guy is talking out of his ass. It wouldn't make any sense to make them more muscular. They just overfeed them to make them fatter and thus, more tender.
As for the amount of hormone that is ingested when eating, I can't say but my guess is it's very very slight and as anyone on this board knows, oral ingestion of a depot is virtually inert. I guess my issue is more with the dangers, which I believe are way exagerated.[/Nelson Montana said:I'm not saying it isn't done. (I'm not sure of the legality issue here). I was calling bullshit more on that guy who was making comparisions to anabolic use in athletes. As mentioned, Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - (Ralgo) is sometimes used before slaugter to swell the cattle up but that's mostly from the estrogen -- which again makes more sense because fat and water will add weight and tenderness whereas anabolic androgenic steroids will make them leaner, muscular and tough.
As for the amount of hormone that is ingested when eating, I can't say but my guess is it's very very slight and as anyone on this board knows, oral ingestion of a depot is virtually inert. I guess my issue is more with the dangers, which I believe are way exagerated.
Nelson Montana said:(Ralgo) is sometimes used before slaugter to swell the cattle up but that's mostly from the estrogen -- which again makes more sense because fat and water will add weight and tenderness whereas anabolic androgenic steroids will make them leaner, muscular and tough.
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