Thinking of quitting- NEED advice

[liftr486]

i have been seeing great results and making incredible gains but i am getting a lot of pressure from my girlfriend--who im gonna be marrying eventually- to stop because shes concerned about my health and the supplements that i take (she doesnt even know that I am currently on). Blood tests came back good, test levels at 1600, no high chol, no elevated values) I also plan on joining the nypd in the next few years and i know that they test for them.

just looking for some advice and if i do quit, wat i should do to help keep some gains. my urologist (very knowledgable and well known in the ny area) said that hed help me get my levels back to normal.

thanks for any help.

k

 

[cboogsrun]

I'd say she might need to educate herself between abuse and use. That might help ease her worries. But that all depends on if you are abusing. Good luck with the gf.

BOOGS

 

[gettinripped]

i' d say you better decide if you want to marry someone that doesnt support you and your ideas. my wife of 3 years partner of 10 doesnt like the fact i use but, doesnt pressure me to quit either. before you say "til death do you part" you better make sure thats what your ready for. not flaming either bro, good luck either way.

 

[liftr486]

shes not really pressuring, it was the fact that she cared about what i was doing to my body and was concerned--she knew i did aas before but does not know now. from working in a gym for over 6yrs now, ive seen a lot of shit happen to a lot of guys that were using aas "correctly" yet their body had other ideas for them. i jus dont know what kind of damage i might be doing to my body even if i am using them smartly. i was also gonna put the nypd on the back burner as a result of the aas but im thinking that might be a good idea to pursue. this all developed after some woman that my mother works with son jus dropped dead walking to his car. y should i put more stress on my body. also the hassle i have to go through whenever i travel and am "on". i jus dont know if its worth it?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

There are both advantages and disadvantages to being "on"... put them on the scales and see which one weighs heavier with you.

 

[jagerbombme]

what did he drop dead from?

 

[Big_Joe]

I'd say quit. If you are really going to try for the NYPD then you really need to have a respect for the law. You can't serve two masters. Either you are breaking the law using roids, regardless of whether anyone else here believes the law is just it's still the law, or you represent the law. That's what it means to have a shield. I know that there are a lot of guys on the PD that don't follow this but that is a matter of personal integrity. That uniform and shield actually have a meaning. Are you going to try and "get over" or are you going to have integrity? That's what it boils down to.

This same problem has been going through my mind. I have been looking at the Highway Patrol. At this point I don't know what I am going to do. But If I do decide to try out for the Highway Patrol there will be no roids in my system regardless if they test for them or not.

 

[64Pilot]

Nice to see the tax money going to test cops for steroids,......expensive fucking tests

 

[jagerbombme]

all drug tests are gay and communistical activities. it's nobodies buisness what's in your personal body. cop or not, if someone has a drug problem it will be evident in their activites as far as they'll be tardy and have absentism problems. they don't need drug tests to fire people with "a true drug problem"

 

[rusbus01]

dude take some time off give ya body a rest..... theres more important things in this world then being on gear.... im sure it will be hard at first but after a month or 2 of training natural im sure youll be backk into it...... its all in your head people to often blindly rely on juice as an all or nothing.... just because your not "ON" doesnt mean dick.... you still can train and diet.... you do not have to give up the the lifestyle you have now........looks to me like you have some good things going for ya with your girl and your new job

 

[jp000]

IMO you should just drop the gear for now, pursue your career and marry your chick. I'll do some gear when I can but I don't plan my life around cycles. Just decide what is going to make your life better and go that route. Good luck.

 

[Ulter]

I would give it more time and go slow on trying to educate her. Women tend to do much better with a little information at a time and be attentive to her concerns. That'll do it.

 

[liftr486]

thanks for all ur help guys. my last shot was on friday and i have a close friend who is also a urologist who will help me get my levels back to where they need to be. gonna c if he can put me on hcg/nolva/clomid starting next monday. i was thinking of using some no2 and ce2 to help me as i am coming off- they worked pretty well for me when i was natural. any other suggestions as to what would be good to take to help, besides the meds?

 

[Ulter]

AIFM will help increase your natural test levels.

 

[liftr486]

AIFM will help increase your natural test levels.

ive got some on hand. ive been using 2.5mg letro ed since i am very prone to gyno. i remember u saying that as u come off the letro to use aifm? how should i do that? also, is aifm suppressive at all? i really dont wanna get gyno, my chest looks great right now.

 

[Ulter]

Just begin using the AIFM the last week of the cycle along with the letro so you're taking them together for a few days. Then just use 2 sprays of AIFM every day. That's it. As your blood levels of test come down the HPTA will kick on faster and stronger because the AIFM will be holding down the E levels. Your HPTA measure E levels to determine when to send the "make more test" alarm to your testes. So by using the AIFM you're tricking the HPTA into making a higher than usual amount of test in your testes. Keep in mind this is the high side of normal, not like shooting test.

 

[rusbus01]

thanks for all ur help guys. my last shot was on friday and i have a close friend who is also a urologist who will help me get my levels back to where they need to be. gonna c if he can put me on hcg/nolva/clomid starting next monday. i was thinking of using some no2 and ce2 to help me as i am coming off- they worked pretty well for me when i was natural. any other suggestions as to what would be good to take to help, besides the meds?

def some creatine (EAS puts out a good one phosphogen), glutamine,BCAA's!!!!, whey (obviously), try some an NO product i like controlled labs white blood, get a good nighttime prroduct like casein protein and or zma- ( should boost test levels a little bit) , for energy ECA stack or just an EC stack before you train is good you dont really need the asprin also the AIFM should be still good to use def stay on it

 

[liftr486]

Just begin using the AIFM the last week of the cycle along with the letro so you're taking them together for a few days. Then just use 2 sprays of AIFM every day. That's it. As your blood levels of test come down the HPTA will kick on faster and stronger because the AIFM will be holding down the E levels. Your HPTA measure E levels to determine when to send the "make more test" alarm to your testes. So by using the AIFM you're tricking the HPTA into making a higher than usual amount of test in your testes. Keep in mind this is the high side of normal, not like shooting test.

my last sus/eq was on friday and i have used the letro up and including today. this week im not shooting ne thing so should i jus do the letro and aifm this whole week and then 2 pumps everyday thereafter? and then once pct is done i use to jus control e levels.

 

[musclemom]

I'd say quit. If you are really going to try for the NYPD then you really need to have a respect for the law. You can't serve two masters. Either you are breaking the law using roids, regardless of whether anyone else here believes the law is just it's still the law, or you represent the law. That's what it means to have a shield.

K to you, dear. You hit the nail right on the head. It doesn't matter if the law is dumb, or you disagree with it, IT'S THE LAW.

A soldier does not have to agree with the politics to go to war, he goes where he's told. Personal opinion stops mattering to a small degree when you swear to uphold the values of the what the uniforms represent.

The girlfriend issue is sort of besides the point, it's just one more argument on the against side if Liftr wants to join the NYPD.

 

[Ulter]

Right

 

[liftr486]

Right

thanks ulter

always helpful

 

[liftr486]

i was planning on the following pct (to begin monday, 10days after last shot):

weeks 1-3 20mg nolva ed/100mg clomid ed/ 1,000iu hcg mwf

weeks 4-6 20 nolva ed/ 50mg clomid ed

plus aifm ed

 

[al420]

i' d say you better decide if you want to marry someone that doesnt support you and your ideas. my wife of 3 years partner of 10 doesnt like the fact i use but, doesnt pressure me to quit either. before you say "til death do you part" you better make sure thats what your ready for. not flaming either bro, good luck either way.

This is so true. My wife hates AAS. She hates it when I am "on" and she hates it when i get stuff at the house. I can't hide it from her 100% so I don't try. I am a 1 cycle a year guy so it isn't that big of a deal - but remember, it can eventually be about $$$$. When you are sharing all the $$ (for me I am the sole bread winner) w/ your wife she may not like the idea of investing 5k on some HRT.

 

[Inhibitor13]

NYPD... what all do you have to do to get a job there? I am about to hit the ce academy myself and am having difficulty on deciding whether or not I have to further my education or just going into a 6 month academy would be fine.

Inhibitor

 

[rusbus01]

NYPD... what all do you have to do to get a job there? I am about to hit the ce academy myself and am having difficulty on deciding whether or not I have to further my education or just going into a 6 month academy would be fine.

Inhibitor

in to take the test and have at least 2 years of college

 

[Agent Dana Scully]

I'd say quit. If you are really going to try for the NYPD then you really need to have a respect for the law. You can't serve two masters. Either you are breaking the law using roids, regardless of whether anyone else here believes the law is just it's still the law, or you represent the law. That's what it means to have a shield. I know that there are a lot of guys on the PD that don't follow this but that is a matter of personal integrity. That uniform and shield actually have a meaning. Are you going to try and "get over" or are you going to have integrity? That's what it boils down to.

This same problem has been going through my mind. I have been looking at the Highway Patrol. At this point I don't know what I am going to do. But If I do decide to try out for the Highway Patrol there will be no roids in my system regardless if they test for them or not.

Yeah, but, if you see the law for what it is; whats legal and whats not, it's all politics, and abstract ideas.

I know plenty of cops who smoke weed leisurely, and they see nothing wrong with it, or if someone does it in their own home. Shit, if they catch you smoking it, they usually let you go depending on the amount. Why was alcohol illegal before and not now <-- Abstract

A lof cops i know are on juice, and their conscious is clean because they geniunely feel theres nothing wrong with it.

 

[H_T_]

how much do you love her? obviously she loves you no what what shape you'll be in........

 

[liftr486]

hows that pct look?

 

[sparetire]

liftr, you got 1 main problem you have to think about before joining the nypd. I'm not sure if it's the same there as it is here in Phx, but when a person decides to join, during the interview process (before the academy), they strap you up on a lie detector test and some of the questions they ask you is if you have ever used steroids before. A friend of mine went through this process and didn't get the job. I hope its not the same there for ya.

Personally, I don't have any issues with officers using roids to 1) look good 2) get the edge on the perps. Sure a bullet can go through muscle, but nothing like bringing a guy down with ease if needed be Either way, good luck to you and let keep us informed if and when you decide to join..


so I can hide my gear from you!

lol

 

[Advisor_x]

Personal choice bro......but good luck with your decision....there are always more important things than lifting and juicing

 

[steelmass]

AIFM will help increase your natural test levels.

Man - you never miss a plug

^^Bump for Ulter =)

Ya bro hit hit hard natty - do that until you get your career and your wife squared away (educate her) and then come back with a vengance.

 

[liftr486]

now is this gonna b a prob? last week was mid cycle and i thought i was going to continue for another six weeks. i used hcg 500iu for 7 days. is it going to be too much to start running the hcg monday at 1000iu mwf?