Thinking about experiementing with a short cycle

[guy]

I have found that short cycles do not work any where near as well as longer cycles, I have tried both & think that 12 weeks cycles are perfect with 4 weeks off in between, works for me & all the top pro's. I think doing 3 different cycles in a 12 week period works really well though.

Guy

 

[Spunky]

How long should I wait before I start another cycle?

I know people say time on=time off. my last cycle was about 10 weeks or so...
I've been off now for about 6 weeks, not exactly sure.... should i wait another month before
i start another cycle?

 

[Goering]

Hey Guy !

How was the short cycle what did you do ? What AS did you use ?

Thank you by the feedback

 

[YellowD]

I would say wait, but I'm a fan of moderation. Your hormones are probably still trying to find their original equilibrium, getting back into their natural cycles. Too many frequent and rapid fluxuations in hormone levels is never good, confuses the body and throws it off its natural rhythm. I like imagining hormone levels like a flat plane with a few shifts in levels few and far between, instead of a zig zag of constant on and off cycling.

 

[guy]

I treid the so called super short cycles as like every one else I am always looking to improve, I did 4 weeks of sus 250 3 times a week & 400mg of deca, as soon as I started feeling the gear kick in I had to come off, there are these so called experts who say do this & that. I see one of these guys at Gold's all the time, he says he is this expert yet he has never won anything that I know of & looks like a football player. But he is an expert all the same, I listen to people that do what they say & the results show. I am lucky that I am tight with most of the top pro's & they all laugh at all these experts saying do this & that. I would be interested in hearing from any one that found the short cycles effective as i have not meet one yet that tried it more than once or twice. When it comes to advice look at who it is coming from.

Hope this helps

Guy

 

[South of the border]

Hey guy,

How´s the weather in California these days?

I can understand that your 4 week sostenon-deca did not work very well as these items are long acting (better to be used for longer cycles).

The logic of the short cycles (2 weeks) is to use only fast acting compounds such as test prop, test suspension, dball tabs, ect. The idea is to load up on these compounds for 14 days and then get out (and limit the potential negative effects of steroids to your endocrine system). I have never tried it myself. Some people like them though.

 

[guy]

The weather is always pretty good herethanks, I agree with the shorter acting stuff being used for short periods of time, but that is only really effective for pre comp the last 4 weeks or so , I use the quick acting stuff close to the show as they are out of your system quickly & you can get the growth benefits it provides as you need to look your best the day of the show, but to use these compounds in the offseason in only short cycles doesn't make sense to me as you do grow when you are on the quick acting stuff, but you also loose the fullness & benefits when you come off. To me this is a waste of time for the off season as you want to build quality muscle in the off season which I find can only be acheived & held doing longer cycles. pre comp is the time for the short cycles as that is the time you need an additional push in the lead up to the show. that is what I find has worked for me & the guys I work with.

GUY

 

[panerai]

Short cycles are not for everyone, and certainly not for guys who compete. It's more for people who more concern with their health and reproductive system.
The idea behind short cycles is that if steroids are used for not longer then 2 weeks, and by day 15th body is cleared from synthetic testosteron, only hypothalamus is suppressed, but not pituitery(in a matter of fact, it gets more sensitive) so the postcycle recovery is much faster then after 8-12 weeks cycle.
Of course, short cycle result in less gains, but it's much healthier and because of fast recovery practically all the gains stay.
A lot of guys, especially when they get older find that short cycles work very well for them, usually resulting in 4-8lb of keepable lean muscles,and it's not that bad.
The formula is 2 weeks on, 4 weeks off.
Usually user frontload with slightly longer ester(day one) and then keep using fast active compounds,like orals, prop, fina,suspension.

 

[liftingnjuicing]

The weather is always pretty good herethanks, I agree with the shorter acting stuff being used for short periods of time, but that is only really effective for pre comp the last 4 weeks or so , I use the quick acting stuff close to the show as they are out of your system quickly & you can get the growth benefits it provides as you need to look your best the day of the show, but to use these compounds in the offseason in only short cycles doesn't make sense to me as you do grow when you are on the quick acting stuff, but you also loose the fullness & benefits when you come off. To me this is a waste of time for the off season as you want to build quality muscle in the off season which I find can only be acheived & held doing longer cycles. pre comp is the time for the short cycles as that is the time you need an additional push in the lead up to the show. that is what I find has worked for me & the guys I work with.

GUY

ARE YOU THE REAL GUY GUNDRY????? I DOUBT IT FOR SOME REASON BUT ITS COOL IF YOU ARE!

 

[guy]

Hey Liftingnjuicin,
I am Guy Grundy, not Guy Gundry, if you are after the first of the 2 then I am he, If I was going to pretend to be a bodybuilder I would have picked some one a little better than me, I would be either Flex Wheller or Kevin Levrone, but I am stuck being Guy Grundy, You can confirm that is me by going to my site www.fitnetusa.com email me & if I email you back saying hello Liftingnjuicin then you will know it's me. Other than that I am not sure how I can prove it. I love bodybuilding & I am dieting & cannot sleep so I come here & see if I can learn anything new or help any one else get on the right track. Take Care

Guy