Think I got Scammed, starting new cycle this week...

[akcikad]

Hey, I am brand spanking new to the board. I have done a lot of research on gear and what is right for me to take for what I want to accomplish. Just a quick briefer, I'm 23, 6'0 188 give or take 2 lbs each way on any given day. I have been lifting since I was 14. I recently had strong feelings that I have reached my limit so to speak, and couldn't make any more dramatic gains, or definition goals of what I used to be able to when I started working out years ago. My thoughts on anablic steroids have always been negative, but after months or research, I decided to give it a whirl. My buddy, who has been purchasing off of people from this site for 3 years, ordered me a supply of testosterone enanthate (ICN Galenka 250) apparently "human grade" which came in amps, and EQ (Shanghai Labs 250) I noticed I gained 7 lbs. in the first 2 weeks, then I made no more gains the last 3 weeks of my first half of cycle. I came to the realization that the first two weeks, which was the leftover supply from my friends last cycle must of been real, and the last few weeks that we newly ordered had to be garbage! In any case, I did 4 weeks of EQ and Test, at 500 of each per week. I am extremely frustrated I happened to fall prey to scammers. Here is where I am now.
Been off for 1.5 weeks, just ordered Testosterone Propienate and EQ from a reliable (one of my long time juicehead friends) source, and expect it to come in today or tomorrow. The supply is QV from what he tells me, and they both are 200 per shot. I am doing the Prop. because I feel I am already starting from scratch and behind in the summer to wait for Enanthate to work. I wanted to get real feedback from you veteran's out there as to what you thought about my idea for this cycle that I am going to begin. Also, wanted to know of any adverse/negative affects that could happen due to me stopping the gear which was apparently fake or underdosed, and being off of stuff for almost 2 weeks now. Thanks for your feedback!...
proposed cycle 10 weeks:
Monday: Testosterone Prop. (200)
EQ (200)

Thursday: Testosterone Prop (200)
EQ (200)

looking to do this for 10 weeks...what do you think?

Also, as far as Nolvadex and Clomid goes, I have been hearing mixed opinions as to when I should begin them in my cycle and at what dosages. Please advise.

Again,

I am 23, 6'0 188
My objective is to put on 12-18 lbs. within 7-10 weeks, and get a lot harder, and lean. Please let me know of any other tips/hints you vet's may know of, or any other suggestions or gear I could couple with the above I will be taking.

Thanks a lot for your feedback and opinions!!!

 

[RAZOR67]

well,the gear would have just been kickin in....patience my friend

 

[gollieth]

How much quality gains due you expect in your first cycle, let alone the first month? Well, i would have finished the cycle, just to see how it worked out, but on the other hand 4-5 weeks is enough time to saturate yourself without screwing up your bodies natural hormone levels.

 

[UNVmyBack]

Hey bro, the test prop from QV is only 100mg and you would want to go ed or eod at least. Also IMO if you are looking for immeadate gains EQ is not the way to go. Most do not feel effects from EQ untill 7-8 week, thats why people run EQ for 12 weeks most of the time. You may want to rethink your cycle. Being your first or second time are you ready for ed or eod shots? Just something to take into consideration. Good luck and be a little more patient with your gains, there are many other factors besides the juice!

 

[puddlemonkey]

Enanthate can take about 3-4 weeks to kick in, and EQ about 5-6. SL gear is top notch, assuming it was the real deal.

 

[akcikad]

In response to UNVmyBack's post. WHAT ARE ED OR EOD SHOTS? I am not familiar with this? Please explain. So if I want to see more "immediate" or at least quicker then 5 weeks results for being hard along with the test, what is a better option instead of EQ? Winny? I dunno, please assist, thanks.

 

[massgainer2002]

What is ed and eod shots? Please explain. I can't advise on dosages, i dont have nuff exp. But i can tell you be patient, test only starts takin effect after earliest 3 weeks, usually 4 or 5 weeks, so hang in there, there is no quick fix, plan your cycles, live them out, train hard, eat like pig and enjoy the results....."Oh and lots of sex in between"!!

 

[genarr3]

ED = "Everyday"
EOD = "Every other day"
If five weeks isn't fast enough for you maybe you shoud try ED Suspension injects.

 

[UnStopAbleForce]

If the EQ is from Shanghai, you can be assured its real, as I know quite a few people who have used their gear. As far as the ICN's go, there have been ALOT of fakes going around. I myself got stuck with some. They look almost identical, the wya to tell is they are extremely easy to open, and just a little shorter then the real ones.

As far as your cycle goes, as somebody above suggested, you must use a test prop a minimum of every other day, alot even use it every day. The EQ you have to understand takes 5-6 weeks before you are really going to start seeing results. It is slow acting, but gains are usually pretty keepable. Winny works alot faster, but you would also have to use it ed or eod. Between that and the prop you would be a human pin cushion.

I think that your first cycle, of Enanthate and EQ was perfect for a first time cycle. Alot of guys use anywhere from 250-500mg per week of Test there first cycle, and gain alot of weight and are very happy with their results. Between that and the EQ, you should be extremely happy. Your goals you posted I think are definatly attainable, as longs as diet is in check, and you train hard, you should be able to gain 20 pounds of lean body mass without a problem.

If I were you bro, whoever told you to use the Prop two times a week, I doubt I'd ever listen to anything they told me again without first researching it. Anyways, I wish you luck bro. Keep us posted on how ya do!!! Later bro.

 

[liquidmuscle]

qv does not make a 200mg prop and if they did i would stay far far away from it...unless you have a wheelchair so you wont have to limp for days