Think I am too fat to start bulking cycle?

[small but working on it]

I had my bf tested friday and it was 15% . For you that dont know, I am 5'10" and about 185 and 30years old. I have been lifting off and on for about 14yrs. I have only run a small dbol,winny cycle a long time ago. I have tried to lose the extra lbs(wanted to be about 11 percent)but am really wanting to start this cycle. My cycle will consist of omnadren 500mg week for 10 wks and dbol 30mg daily for 4 weeks. I will end with 50 mg winstrol (IP brand, so maybe 50 mg who knows) at weeks 8-10 and then proper pct. I will be running hcg and nolva during and start clomid 3 wks after last inject. Am I too fat to start cycle? I can see top abs but that is it. Remember, I am 30 not 20 and cant lose the extra lbs as fast as some of you. I havent planned on any cardio during bulking cycle.This will be my first real(injectable) cycle and I hope to gain 25 lbs lean muscle. Possible? I need some solid advice, and I know I will have to eat clean(goal 4k cals,350 protein) and I will probably need some help with getting that many cals cleanly. Please help guys.

 

[dr0832]

Its not a problem unless you think its a problem. I mean will you like potentially walking around with 18-20% BF? Too me that is pretty damn fat. No offense but even 15% to me makes me feel like I am fat. If I were you I would cut down first even if it takes time. Try out a CKD, its the best way to lose fat ub ny opinion if you stick to it.

 

[small but working on it]

Its not a problem unless you think its a problem. I mean will you like potentially walking around with 18-20% BF? Too me that is pretty damn fat. No offense but even 15% to me makes me feel like I am fat. If I were you I would cut down first even if it takes time. Try out a CKD, its the best way to lose fat ub ny opinion if you stick to it.

no offense taken, I have been told I look like john goodman only fatter. just kidding but seriously what would you suggest ? CKD? I would like to get to about 11 percent but I am really wanting to start cycle. What would be a time frame if diet and exercise was right to get there do you think?

 

[damageinc70]

Its not a problem unless you think its a problem. I mean will you like potentially walking around with 18-20% BF? Too me that is pretty damn fat. No offense but even 15% to me makes me feel like I am fat. If I were you I would cut down first even if it takes time. Try out a CKD, its the best way to lose fat ub ny opinion if you stick to it.

Sorry to sound like a rookie here, but what is a CKD??

 

[chewyxrage]

Sorry to sound like a rookie here, but what is a CKD??

cyclical ketogenic diet

http://www.c-k-d.com

 

[BigJoshRn]

Just hypothesizing here...but wouldn't it be easier to lose the fat if you have increased lean muscle mass. Granted, I understand it is preferable to only have to lose the excess weight put on during the cycle so you spare more of the lean mass, but hypothetically speaking, doesn't it work just as well???

 

[2BIG4URMOM]

I had my bf tested friday and it was 15% . For you that dont know, I am 5'10" and about 185 and 30years old. I have been lifting off and on for about 14yrs. I have only run a small dbol,winny cycle a long time ago. I have tried to lose the extra lbs(wanted to be about 11 percent)but am really wanting to start this cycle. My cycle will consist of omnadren 500mg week for 10 wks and dbol 30mg daily for 4 weeks. I will end with 50 mg winstrol (IP brand, so maybe 50 mg who knows) at weeks 8-10 and then proper pct. I will be running hcg and nolva during and start clomid 3 wks after last inject. Am I too fat to start cycle? I can see top abs but that is it. Remember, I am 30 not 20 and cant lose the extra lbs as fast as some of you. I havent planned on any cardio during bulking cycle.This will be my first real(injectable) cycle and I hope to gain 25 lbs lean muscle. Possible? I need some solid advice, and I know I will have to eat clean(goal 4k cals,350 protein) and I will probably need some help with getting that many cals cleanly. Please help guys.

I started with the Omna's and A-bombs, but I had a lot less bf% than you have. I'm also 30 years old and building muscle faster now than I did as a teenager. Even though I started tiny as hell, I had a good base from being in the military.

I think you will end up carrying way to much water weight on that cycle, especially being 15% bf. Just taking winny towards the end of your cycle isn't going to be a miracle cutting drug for you, and it will just be that much harder to get the lean look that you desire.

I would hold off on the AAS for a bit, until you have your diet in check.

I haven't done a cutting cycle yet, and I have 2 months to figure it out so I'm still looking into my options. Here is something that I'm leaning towards;
Test enath 500mg EW
Tren ace 75mg EoD
winny 50mg ED
depending on my BF% at the time maybe look into some Clen.

 

[Jayy5921]

you should be able to diet your way down to 11% without AAS. I wouldnt try to run test and d-bol if I was already unhappy with my current bf%, u will go up a few more % with a little bloat. I dont think u will be too happy with the look.

 

[The Terminator]

With your stats and the cycle you have laid out you probably will look fatter from the water retention
But I think you can make some real nice gains with that, but I doubt 25 lbs of lean mass...

In fact anyone who gains 25 lbs on one cycle IMO hasnt reached their genetic potential yet...No ONE cycle is going to put on 25 lbs of muscle over what you can hold naturally...

What I mean is that if you are 130 lbs with 6 months of training under your belt then YEAH, you will probably gain ATLEAST 25 lbs with that cycle...But an advanced athlete with 5+ years training and starting weight of 190 probably wont

 

[small but working on it]

so, you guys think that I should in some way(naturally,clen, etc...) get to what % bf before starting this cycle? Obviously 2big that cycle worked for you and I know I can get some serious mass from it, I do not want to look bloated up too bad either, I was thinking .5 arimidex daily to combat bloat. Soooo, as far a bf goes, where should I be before I start this cycle or does anyone have another cycle that would be better suited for my loafy ass?