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Things that piss you off about America's immigration issue

Burning_Inside

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Here's my big pet peeve, and I don't really know wether it's tied into illegal immigration or just shitty immigration laws period...

I believe if you're going to reside in a new country that speaks a new language, you should be 100% required to read, write and speak the language. I know there is a literacy test when attempting to become naturalized, but either it needs a higher quality of standards placed upon it, or simply we have a bigger illegal probelm than we thought, to the point that businesses are doing more to capitalize on the issue than just hiring the illegals, but targeting them with ad campaigns to make the businesses look like their best friends and that the fact they are indeed illegal or simply illiterate in English is of no real issue.

I live in an area where there's a big influx of Mexican or Latin or whatever the fuck immigrants (I don't stop and ask them exactly where they're from) because unfortunately in this case, my area has both a hefty amount of low income housing projects and it's got quick and easy access to Newark NJ, Philly, and NYC. This quick access means the drug trafficking into this area which has been free of the inner citty ghetto like drug problems up until just a few years prior, is now ripe for the picking by the ghetto trash coming from those areas. We're now full of second rate losers who couldn't even make it on the streets in their hometown shitholes, so it's like they decide to pack up and run off before someone kills them and where better to call home than here?

So anyways, a couple months ago I was driving through a nearby city and on the side of a bank they had this huge banner in Spanish. Not even an english translation in parentheses somewhere to throw us natives a bone. I felt like I was an unwanted stranger who wasn't allowed or good enough to read some huge sign set out for the general public to see in his hometown.

So this hit me as a big sign of the times and also a slap in the face. Why should these immigrants be let into the U.S legally first off if they can't truly read and write English, therefore effectively communicate properly with the natural populace? I'd love to see how stringent this lliteracy test is for passing into the USA.

Now if indeed this test is a very strict one, and the immigrants should in theory have no issue reading and comprehending much in the English language after passing it, then why would a company make a banner targeted directly to immigrants in their native tongue? We have a huge Italian and Polish population here also yet never ever have I seen anything printed publicly in my life in even the most ethnically dense areas around here that was printed up in just Italian or Polish. But businesses seem fine with doing just that for the Mexicans.

So now if the legal immigrants should have no issues with English literacy, and therefore there would be no reason to publicly display an ad based in their native tongue, then the other reason for doing so would be to cater to those that come here illegally and have no clue what is going on around them because they can't understand a lick of English. So to get these people's business easily, it makes sense to target them with ads from their native tongue.

It obvously makes fiscal sense but these idiots running these businesses must have no clue that they're just adding to the problem. Not only are they spreading a false message of it being OK to be an ignorant illiterate immigrant because there will always be businesses there to pick up their slack, but they also spit on the Americans who have lived here their whole lives and helped their business come to be what it is to begin with by completely shutting us out from the message they're trying to convey to a selective public and making us feel like complete fools. No one should ever have to go through life in their home town being blitzed with messages in a foreign language; ones designed to cater to criminals ruining our economy.
 
Sorry BI, I agree with you on a lot of this stuff, but there is always an exception to the rule. The whole ‘not speaking’ English gets to me also, but if they are trying to speak it and not speak Spanish (or any other language) I’m ok with it, since they are trying. And I don’t have a problem with Mexicans, they are hard ass workers (the legit ones). I live in a pretty big city (2.5 million people) and at the Home Depot downtown on 1st ave you see a HUGE crowd of Mexican guys out there every morning at the butt crack of dawn begging for work. Now I can travel 5 blocks south and see 15 black guys and 30 white bums all begging for money not for work. I rarely see a Mexican if any (can’t recall since I turn a blind eye, I’m a dick like that) begging for anything but work.
 
trizo said:
Sorry BI, I agree with you on a lot of this stuff, but there is always an exception to the rule. The whole ‘not speaking’ English gets to me also, but if they are trying to speak it and not speak Spanish (or any other language) I’m ok with it, since they are trying. And I don’t have a problem with Mexicans, they are hard ass workers (the legit ones). I live in a pretty big city (2.5 million people) and at the Home Depot downtown on 1st ave you see a HUGE crowd of Mexican guys out there every morning at the butt crack of dawn begging for work. Now I can travel 5 blocks south and see 15 black guys and 30 white bums all begging for money not for work. I rarely see a Mexican if any (can’t recall since I turn a blind eye, I’m a dick like that) begging for anything but work.


That brings up another good side issue, and I agree with you, but let's talk about the reasons why it is that you see what you see.

I have no doubt that Mexicans are hard workers, but the thing is the scene you see with them begging for work, well I feel sorry for them, but I have to applaud the Home Depot for electing to not pay them slave wages instead of hiring, for instance a legit college kid who badly needs work to pay off loans.

Again if HD did hire them, then what kind of message does that send the illegals and America? It says to the illegals that it's OK to be illegal and not know nary a thing about English communication cause there will always be a company looking to screw over its own people for the love of the dollar. The illegals keep coming though because they know there are companies out there that will do it, but there's a lot more that will refuse, and the supply of illegal jobs for illegal immigrants can't keep up with the influx of immigrants to the U.S. So what happens then when you have all these illegals out of work and starving? They turn to crime and people start being shot over a few bucks to buy bread.
 
I think it is a hoot. I can't wait until 50% of the nation is Latino and they try to take the Southwestern states from us. It will happen in our lifetime.
 
I agree, they should all be required to take english classes...To speak, write, and read english and english only!
 
Burning_Inside said:
That brings up another good side issue, and I agree with you, but let's talk about the reasons why it is that you see what you see.

I have no doubt that Mexicans are hard workers, but the thing is the scene you see with them begging for work, well I feel sorry for them, but I have to applaud the Home Depot for electing to not pay them slave wages instead of hiring, for instance a legit college kid who badly needs work to pay off loans.

Again if HD did hire them, then what kind of message does that send the illegals and America? It says to the illegals that it's OK to be illegal and not know nary a thing about English communication cause there will always be a company looking to screw over its own people for the love of the dollar. The illegals keep coming though because they know there are companies out there that will do it, but there's a lot more that will refuse, and the supply of illegal jobs for illegal immigrants can't keep up with the influx of immigrants to the U.S. So what happens then when you have all these illegals out of work and starving? They turn to crime and people start being shot over a few bucks to buy bread.

I don’t feel sorry for those people. Sure they are trying to better their lives but they were unprepared like you said. They can’t speak English so they have to take pointing directions “Dig ditch here – points to ground”. They are starting at the bottom of the barrel and fuckin lucky if they do get a normal job and do not turn to a life of crime or drugs. So your argument really stands true. But that can be said about anyone really.

Take a non bilingual American and drop him off in another country with little money, one change of clothes and ask them to find a job. I bet 10% of Americans would actually be able to make a buck and find a job, and the other 90% would prolly starve or turn to crime/whoring also.

I agree, glad they hire collage kids and old guys who love to talk your ear off about why you should get this shovel over this rake.

I forgot to mention there is a full time state trooper (not security guard) stationed in the parking lot at Home Depot. So I’m sure there has been some fights over who gets to dig who’s ditch. So I’m not saying they are good guys or anything, it’s just nice to seeing them NOT hold a sign saying “Give me free money while you drive to work and I sit here all day and do nothing”.
 
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