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The USA Needs a Good War!
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gsxr1000
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Re: Re: Re: The USA Needs a Good War!
This is definately true, and I was in London and Paris back in October and I was surprised at just how opposed to the war Europeans are. I saw flyers, posters, a few demonstartions, as well as many other indications of how the people there just do not support the war with Iraq/Sadam/Afghanistan.
Imnotdutch said:
This is definately true, and I was in London and Paris back in October and I was surprised at just how opposed to the war Europeans are. I saw flyers, posters, a few demonstartions, as well as many other indications of how the people there just do not support the war with Iraq/Sadam/Afghanistan.
louden_swain
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2Thick said:
You are sadly mistaken!! The United States had one of the largest economic booms in history! We had a massive upsurge in mortgage loans for housing, automobile purchases, and business expansion. This was the era of rapid suburbanization.
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Maybe once a REAL war has taken place, then the country will clean itself up and focus on important issues such as constitutional rights and freedoms and will stop its political apathy from spreading to newer generations.[/QUOTE]
You certainly must not be an American. You display so much pessimism towards the most concrete government in the world.
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MiamiStyle245
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Who is to say that the US needs the Middle East to supply us oil more than they need us to buy it? Free trade has been shown to work over the years. These people live off selling oil and we buy a shitload of it.
I don't fully understand what the hell we are doing in the Middle East acting as a police force. It doesn't make sense to me. Surely the military money that we spend to sustain our actions in this region outweigh any savings on oil that we receive because of our involvement.
In the long run, I feel that a war might be inevitable. Iraq is really the least of our problems in the long run war on terror. A regime change in Iraq would shift the balance of power in the middle east as a whole and it could mean a lot in the future.
I don't fully understand what the hell we are doing in the Middle East acting as a police force. It doesn't make sense to me. Surely the military money that we spend to sustain our actions in this region outweigh any savings on oil that we receive because of our involvement.
In the long run, I feel that a war might be inevitable. Iraq is really the least of our problems in the long run war on terror. A regime change in Iraq would shift the balance of power in the middle east as a whole and it could mean a lot in the future.
WTF?!?! Niggas like Edu & 2Thick need to realize that:
WE ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE TRYING TO STOP ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS MEN ON THE PLANET, FROM SOME DAY ATTACKING US OR NEARBY COUNTRIES HE DOESNT LIKE.
Saddam is a person who would have ran his country into the ground both economically and otherwise long ago, had it not been sitting on a sea of oil.
Will Saddam be a Castro or a Hitler? I dont want to wait around and find out. What I mean, by the above question is this: Castro was considered a threat for a long time. But aside from the Cuban Missle Crisis, he has never really done anything and really cant do anything due to his location and embargos. By a Hitler, I mean someone who will use their power & influence to strike against the US. In a way, Saddam already is a Hitler, since he has attacked other countries and then fought against the US.
What do you want, 2Thick? Do you want Saddam to bomb innocent people, both in his country and elsewhere? Why take the chance??
And for the fucks who say we're "fighting for oil"... I say, "to the victor go the spoils". We arent fighting for oil, but if we win, why be stupid and not take it?
WE ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE TRYING TO STOP ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS MEN ON THE PLANET, FROM SOME DAY ATTACKING US OR NEARBY COUNTRIES HE DOESNT LIKE.
Saddam is a person who would have ran his country into the ground both economically and otherwise long ago, had it not been sitting on a sea of oil.
Will Saddam be a Castro or a Hitler? I dont want to wait around and find out. What I mean, by the above question is this: Castro was considered a threat for a long time. But aside from the Cuban Missle Crisis, he has never really done anything and really cant do anything due to his location and embargos. By a Hitler, I mean someone who will use their power & influence to strike against the US. In a way, Saddam already is a Hitler, since he has attacked other countries and then fought against the US.
What do you want, 2Thick? Do you want Saddam to bomb innocent people, both in his country and elsewhere? Why take the chance??
And for the fucks who say we're "fighting for oil"... I say, "to the victor go the spoils". We arent fighting for oil, but if we win, why be stupid and not take it?
theoak01
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BeefyBull said:
That is complete and utter bullshit fed to you by the american government relayed by the media
Pakistan and India are greater thrreats,they have been constantly using threats of nukes on each other for some time now
And this situation would not have happened had sept 11 not have occured.
And oh what a convinient time to start a war,Bush wants to use this to stay in office,You would have figured he would have learned from Daddy.
And SailorGirl what makes america great? Canada was been recognized as the best place to live for some time now
Re: Re: The USA Needs a Good War!
It was quiet militarily. The result was a boom in the economy. You totally missed the point.
I hold an American passport. The difference between you and I is that I have (and will continue) to live in other countries. Oh yeah, and the advanced degrees that allow me to see things that lay persons are too busy or too ignorant to see.
The average American is far more concerned with mortgage payments, the stock market, their 40 hours/week job and their retirement to care or comprehend what is going on with their country's geopolitical policies. they just take the word of their leaders. That is a recipe for disaster.
louden_swain said:
It was quiet militarily. The result was a boom in the economy. You totally missed the point.
I hold an American passport. The difference between you and I is that I have (and will continue) to live in other countries. Oh yeah, and the advanced degrees that allow me to see things that lay persons are too busy or too ignorant to see.
The average American is far more concerned with mortgage payments, the stock market, their 40 hours/week job and their retirement to care or comprehend what is going on with their country's geopolitical policies. they just take the word of their leaders. That is a recipe for disaster.
You have a lot of oil.
But you buy more oil, and more, the oil is an estragegic component.
THe problem is that you don´t know about the rest of the world. Study, see the past, USA created Saddam USA created Bin Laden, You are the guilty for the criation of this " two monsters" You give weapons to him in the 70-80'.
PS: USA is the best place to live???
I think that some people have to travel.
You are not the center of the world. YOu are the leader of the world in this century. Won´t be for the eternity. Don´t think that you are the best.
You must travel, see other good countries to live. See the porr countries too, see the people that don´t have nothing to eat.
Yes, the best country, make war, kill innocent people, make financial domination of other countries, produce poverty, hungry...
Yes, this is your country, don´t think that you live in a paradise.
Get out of your little world man.
But you buy more oil, and more, the oil is an estragegic component.
THe problem is that you don´t know about the rest of the world. Study, see the past, USA created Saddam USA created Bin Laden, You are the guilty for the criation of this " two monsters" You give weapons to him in the 70-80'.
PS: USA is the best place to live???
I think that some people have to travel.
You are not the center of the world. YOu are the leader of the world in this century. Won´t be for the eternity. Don´t think that you are the best.
You must travel, see other good countries to live. See the porr countries too, see the people that don´t have nothing to eat.
Yes, the best country, make war, kill innocent people, make financial domination of other countries, produce poverty, hungry...
Yes, this is your country, don´t think that you live in a paradise.
Get out of your little world man.
Re: Re: Re: The USA Needs a Good War!
Saddam and Hittler are totaly different. Again, you need to no more the history. I will give an advice for your. Learn ohter language and read newspapers, magazines, and good books of ohter countries. Analyse the point of view for the hole world.
2Thick said:
Saddam and Hittler are totaly different. Again, you need to no more the history. I will give an advice for your. Learn ohter language and read newspapers, magazines, and good books of ohter countries. Analyse the point of view for the hole world.
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