The mid-week carb-up on a CKD

[Fonz]

I was just re-reading some info on cyclical Ketogenic diets,
and I came upon some interesting data on mid-week
carb-ups.
Who does them here?

What I mean, is that in theory you can be in Ketosis
when muscle glycogen is full as long as liver
glycogen is empty, so having a mid-week carb meal
won't drop you out of ketosis(assuming you work out
on MON-TUES).
And it woud be VERY beneficial for strength
purposes.

BUT, there's a catch:

1. You have to limit your food choices to
carbohydrate foods based on glucose
not sucrose or fructose.
Sucrose is a fructose-glucose molecule.
Fructose primarily re-glycogenates the liver
even when muscle glycogen is empty.
Around 250g carbs would be optimal.

This rationale ALSO applies to those people
who carb-up on weekends.
If you stay away from sucrose and fructose
based compounds you'll enter ketosis much
faster the following week.

If Mr.X is around I'd like to here your thought
on Brain chemistry adaptation to Ketogenic
diets.
I'll explain a bit:

Normaly, the brain requires 120g of glucose(
This never changes), when someone
goes on a ketogenic diet the brain is forced
to switch from glucose to ketones and
this sometimes can cause cognitive problems
like: You feel slower i.e. slower processing
speed of sensory input.
Is there any med to counter-act this problem?

This problem only really subsists for three weeks or
so until the brain adapts(This is also why
the minimum protein intake drops from 150g/day
to 93g/day for muscle-loss not to occurr after
those 3 weeks. In essence you start burning
90%fat when you enter ketosis, and you then reach
a maximum of 93% by Week 3)

All I can say from experience, is that those 3 weeks
SUCK...LOL

Ok, enough rambling....

Godspeed

 

[diamonddiceclay]

this is an option explained in "the metabolic diet"by dipasquale. You can do a wednesday carb up as a trial, but it's easier to just wait until the weekend

 

[Fonz]

BUMP for Mr.X for my second question.

i.e. Is it possible to accelerate the "transition" period
where the brain adapts from using primarily glucose
for energy to Ketones for energy?

Godspeed

 

[Mr.X]

Fonz, sorry, I was away for a week, (personal problems)...

Now, let's see: What you are referring to is basically a 3/1 CKD (3-ketosis/1-carb up) if I understand correctly. Yes, this is a good bulking ratio, but if used naturally without insulin, it's not sufficient for quality fat-loss. (getting into ketosis, sometimes takes up to 2 days)
But, if you are referring to a one meal deal, than I would think you are quiet adequate for doing a TKD (targeted-ketonic-diet) without running a risk of dropping out of Ketosis.

The brain adaptation partially depends on the blood PH levels; therefore, once the body raises the PH levels to neutral than your brain can adapt to quiet efficient use of Ketones.

Accelerate the process? Hmm, I am not sure about this one, for I have worked on this problem in the past without any plausible conclusion. I would say, really, over the years, the best way for me was to run SKD (standard ketonic) for 2 weeks, at which point my brain seems to be very adapted.

Mr.X

 

[MiniColemans]

Would this do anything for t3 and keeping up the production of the thyroid when on low carb diets? bump for info